when i put it on, i got it on right, when it was at 0 degrees, it was really about the same power, nothing changed. i advanced it, and thats when i dont feel that extra pull like i used to, during vtec. i was wondering if advancing increased low end trq, and if ret. increased high end. if that were correct i would prolly want to retard it a little bit, but i have just always heard of people advancing it, never really retarding it any.