ok well once again i was talking to some more peope, and they said that both the CTR and ITR cams out perform the stage 2's. I did more reading and i now am thinking about the stage two's. I would buy the toda/jun/jdm stuff if i had deep pockets, but i dont. Can someone give me a heads up on performance of the stage 2 vrs the itr/ctr cams?

thanks again