I agree with u totally about this but its where u buy the cars and how much u want to spend volvo has been making 230hp inline 4's since early to mids 80's and 250-275hp inline 5 since very early 90's. So its all you look for the heavy volvo up to 1994 was 3500 pounds that was inline 6 model too so... Just to tell people there not as heavy as u think....but are still beastliy.. look at hte new volvo s60r (sedan) or v70r (wagon). THey both have in car tunable distrubtion torque managment system... 3 mods. Economy mode 95% front and 5% back then sport 50% front and 50% back then advanced sport 5% front then 95% back. dont ask me where they got the name... But it has 300 hp and 295 poudns of torque from 1850-redline rpm... the sedan weight jsut udner 3500 pounds.. so i dont know volvo, saab, pregout, MG, um alot of other european car besides bmw, MB, VW/Audi/Porsche have been makeing high performance sedans and wagons.. so MB is on development of 1000hp 2400 pounds carbon fiber body with one of hte designs of the mclaren f1 on there team also form what iread they are going to be using a v12 m power bmw engine just like mclaren but wiht alot more power pushed out of it.... it might be beating pretty soon so all types of cars are gettin in the car seen...
http://www.users.totalise.co.uk/~reg...R-1002-716.jpg its called the rover coupe
Originally posted by Shinobi
This happens (The whole Honda civic sux now thing) every 5 years a car manufacturer gets so lost in the economics that they forget what the buyers really want and as soon as nissan or mazda or subaru has cornered the market honda will put something out to decimate the newest nissan or whatever the front runner may be....Honda has been a front runner in the import scene for so long pplz are also getting tired of seeing them....(The "if you drive a civic you rice" attitude) The RSX type S and the S2000 are way too pricey for most of us so we overlook that if we spend 25,000 dollars we can have a hot honda......Its just what happens like when all nisssan made performance wise for a solid 4 years was the 300Z, but who could afford it back then when it was brand new and 25,000 dollars....Its all about where the company goes and when they do it....The import scene is going nowhere it just may fade for a few companies for a while....Think of subaru they just really got in the game with the WRX and now the STI is comming ......Mitsubishi quit making the turbo eclipse for a while but the new / old lancer evo8 is on its way now as with nissan putting out ther highly tunnable, highly affordable SE-R out.....Its just the nature of the beast......