Ok so far I've gotten the timing belt off, balance belt, and the rest of the belts, the tensioner, the metal bracket the tensioner pushes on, 2 tensioner pulleys, drained the oil, all the bolts to the water pump, but cannot figure out how the f*k to get the water pipe off the pump. I'm thinking I just pull seriously hard? or what? Suction was holding the pump to the block until I pulled hard enuf and water spalshed out everywhere. Any ideas anyone?