whoa whoa calm down im not getting hostile, i simply said if you dont like ls/vtec leave it at that, see the diffrence is im not putting anything down , im not saying turbos suck, im opening doors to other possibilities, and since i have seen many well built and quick ls/vtecs im more than happy to give them praise, and for a budget they are real good and easily availble cheap horse power, i know in the past there have been a shit load of blown ls/vtec motors, but when turbos first came in the honda world there a shit load of blown turbo motors. your one of those very cloce minded people, especially on a subjet like this. you think cause you read a few articles about how the stroke ratios off, and how you know SSSOOOO many ignorant people building these things, that its bad... do me a favor and go to import review and tell 503 hp ls vtec turbo that his ratio is off and he might wanna reconsider his setup. a matter of fact there are about 30 diffrent dyno run there and look closely to what setup they are, all i wanted to get across is that ls/vtec was a option, i never said turbo couldnt been done later, ls/vtec just gives you a better platform. and why are you comparing a "well engineered turbo kit" to "POS ls/vtec kit", are you implying there is no good way to run the setup? fuck everyone stop what your doing, burn has the solution to our horse power problems... its ignorant comments like yours that get me hostile...
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