thanks for the info. the absolute cheapest i found the cup kit was 469.00 with out shipping. that was at TMTuning.com. the total was 567.00. the only thing is that they are in germany and it would probably take 4ever to get here. i think i might take a chance and order from jshouseofeuro.com. it will be about 30.00 more but they will be easier to deal with than someone in germany i'm sure. now the next question is who wants to put it on for me?