let's beat the dead horse then, shall we? i have a half hour to kill...

i think you all have poor reading comprehension and he is saying that an s2000 will likely beat an m3 on tsukuba. isn't it FUNNY, brianT, that his post answered my question better than yours, when you seem to be the subject matter expert (having brought it up in the first place) of the entire 'tsuchiya on tsukuba' reference?

and here i was fully prepared to defend the point you're trying so desperately to salvage by just trying to find out a little more. how sad. it seems like you're now resorting to attacking those who would be supporting you, being unable to sustain your point through mild debate.

and maybe this last, long, barely on subject post can put to rest this overlooked debacle of a thread... bare with me. throughout this thread, which you largely contributed, with your position being unwavering on how overpriced european sports cars are overrated and low-tech japanese cars can easily be made to be competitive with them, you are now reversing your position and seeking to gain favor from those who on the previous page you were arguing against. am i right? and at the same time, you're randomly attacking people who are attempting to strengthen your now defeated position.

i seriously hope you're not a lawyer.

and i didn't quite make it a half hour, either. hurry up and reply, if you're going to at all. i half expect you to offer to buy me a beer.