sad shit? she asked what you meant by second source. and to be honest, i have no clue what you are referring to also.

subletting work maybe?

*edit* and obviously some people can do their own work better then someone that knows what they are doing for a living right?

i hate people with that mentality, most of us in the business refer to them as "enthusiasts" just cause they own a certain kind of car and are on the internet about it all the time doesnt mean they know what they are doing.

yes, there are people that can do work themselves, and do most of the shit in their backyard or garage, and that is the essence of hot rodding.

Mike asked where around here is good and bad, not who does their shit themselves cause they think all shops are ripoff assholes that will fuck your shit up.

there are some jobs that even most backyard mechanics cant do cause of lack of experience or tools, and that is the entire point of this thread. he is wanting to know where people have had good or bad experiences at, not that all shops will fuck your shit up.

and from personal and professional experience, 95% of "enthusiasts" do more damage then good doing their own work.

but what do i know