HP sells cars Torque wins races. Even if the new Renesis can put out 250 HP the Tq of the FD would easily out distance the RX-8 in tight corner situations. Not to mention what they do in the skid pad (RX-8 .91g, RX-7?), and braking. I find it extremely hard to believe that give all else being equal the RX-8 could even see a FD's taillights once the flag went down. -Ian