i also have spoke through pm to the thread starter a few times.and was also posting so as that anyone else who owns or is thinkin about the purchuse would have the info isnt that what this place is all about?i NEVER put down anyones car v8 srt-4 i just gave my personal opp i think thats for any young enthusiest that this car is a great platform to start with as well as to some a srt4 or ls1 whatever the buyer wants.not all younger people have the income for some higher dollar cars so to each his own