its not really that you need a secret spot, just that you have to get perssion from the person......so if some dumbass rolls in there, it is private property so just them will be kicked out, and then cops cant do shit. cause they dont have the right to. our club always rolls up to my work for our meeting, cops follow us all the time to it, then when they try to talk shit, i pull out my key, let everyone inside and say "private property". and they leave. someone on here has to have a friend ro relative that owns a store with a big ass lot....