thanx for the info. that's cheaper than i thought it would be. if i were to race like that, i dunno if it would be an accord, i definitely know not mine street car, heh. but for now while i'm in school, i'm trying to get as much seat time as possible, then once i get out, i might get a project car for just the track. but those are goals, well see. if i progress, i'll be sure to ask y'all questions along the way.