Capster78, building on what you said, the overdone ricers is really out of control, like a full body kit with a giant wing and all this goofy shit... now if theyre just trying to look good and not talkin shit well then go on and do your bad thang, but if you have all that shit and ur talkin trash like your something fast, I invite ANYONE to stomp their asses... now let me put something else in perspective.. in the 60's - 70's people were doing the same thing, well almost, taking average cars and turning them into wild creations, there was the same shit then, as there is now, and there will always be... just the way the teddybears have their picnic...