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Old May 5, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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Alright dude, since you have some sorta malfunction:

I stated that the VG30DETT was the strongest Nissan motor (meaning materials; build; power it can withstand on stock block). I challenged the other Nissan motors, specifically the RB26DETT, to stand up to the VG30DETT's capability of ~650HP.
- "drifter" posted evidence that the RB26 was equally as strong, amidst all the bullshit you were throwing at me. After I admitted defeat and after some more of your BS, you finally posted something to support the same claim.

Beforehand, you went off on all different angles, bringing up subjects that nobody ever argued, and stats for cars that were irrelevant to the argument. You also threw out all kinds of opinionated statements with no examples.

You said that "top jspec tuners swap SR20's into Z32's because it has more potential than the VG30".
- Who? Where? If they are "top tuners" it should not be difficult to provide examples.

You keep saying that the RB26 puts down more HP completely stock than the VG30.
- You still have not proved that. Your buddy "eng" posted that the R33 makes 190whp, which is much LESS than the Z motor makes. (By the way "eng", I hope my argument with your girlfriend here isn't the reason you started locking threads in the NoVA forum and why my thread was deleted. That is a cowardly way of using your "moderator powers". I'd hate to lose respect for you the way I lost the little respect I had for Heat. If I am wrong, I apologize).

You said "alot of family sedans are making close to the same HP out of smaller V6's than the 350Z".
- I asked to see some examples of some family cars that make 287HP. You gave back none.

You constantly go back to "there are more high HP Skylines than Z32's".
- Well even though that fact has NOTHING to do with the argument at hand, there very well SHOULD be more. The Skyline was mass produced at a much greater scale than the Z32; they are very very common overseas and as you know came in several different options and trim levels. Not to mention the price difference. The Z was marketed toward a specialized buyer, particularly ones with a little extra money. The Skylines came in all different shapes and price ranges, as so it was much cheaper and more common than the Z. If you see more Z's than Skylines overseas, then something is very wrong. As far as the Skyline being more popular, and/or easier to extract more power from, and/or easier to swap the motor into other cars, no argument there.



I really don't see what else there is to argue; but if you're just gonna keep coming back with shit to confuse the original argument, then fine. I DO give up.
The VG30DETT is pure shit. I might as well swap a B16 into my Z. All of Heat's listed 1000HP Skylines are using unmodified stock blocks.
Heat is the grandmaster of all. I am nothing.

If you need the last word or want to twist this around any further, post whatever you want. I am not posting on this thread ANYMORE.