the only thing i hate about a v8 is the goddamn sound, i hate going to the track when the domestics are runnng cause goddamn its loud..........and i bought my car for 4500 bucks, bought a turbo kit and msd for 3500 bucks, and a clutch and ran 13.1, now i know a stock camaro or a trans am will prolly run close to that but price difference is about 15k-18k, dont get me wrong, cause if i could afford a t/a i would buy one but i cant, price is my thing, i dont have alot of money, but if i can run good times and whoop the shit out of the z28 talking shit to me in the staging lanes for 1/4 of what he paid for his car, im happy........and there is no replacement for displacement, not even boost, but it sure helps..........and you can still build a 9 second honda for less than half the price of a new camaro.....