ya i've seen a couple of the newer ones, but i was thinking as a new rider some of the newer 600s may be just to much for me, i know alot of riders frown on starting on 600s period, what does everyone think about this? plus i'd really love to have a gsx-r only because of all the great things i hear about them, which is as usual, probably pretty biased, and i know another 500 aint that much but that 500 would probably cut into my gear money and i wouldn't wanna end up going cheaper on gear to save money