Personally i gots the weak ass F22 NON VTEC, and i have run against the F22 Vtec and i mean the way most people see it is. "i have Vtec so i am better and faster...." No, your car puts out more HP at the top, but you think its all your car, shift like my grandmother, and i wooped your ass. haveing a Vtec is jsut a really kool sticker you can put on your car. so when someone smacks you in the face, you can say.... "the Vtec didn't kick in" . well at least thats how i have experienced it.