don't like welded cuz nothing to give cuz axle if tire doesn't loose grip first . . . and 4x4 meets are fine for me as long as like u say people don't stand around and talk and then leave . . thought it was a decent day when met ya in chesapeake that one time . . lol . .but my truck was broke so sucked but anyhow . . .. . cook out would be cool but dunno if I'm gonna come all that way out . . specially in 50 degree or 40 degree weather . . lol