Not to be rude, but I'm not asking for opinions on what I should get. I have no interest in driving an automatic anymore. I have no interest in owning a Mercedes of any sort, new old, gas or diesel. There are reasons behind the choices I've posted about, and unless something is comparable to those two cars, I highly doubt I'm going to have interest in it. I'm looking for opinions on the two cars posted about originally in this thread. There are alternate reasons behind choosing these cars, and rather you guys believe I can keep from doing heavy mods to them, that is not really what I care about right now. I believe that I won't be tempted to do major mods to these cars, and that is good enough for me, seeing as I'm the one buying the car.