Originally Posted by
marcusgnf
Then you try to cover what you previously stated by adding the word ring
No need to, the story is about the car going around the track known as the ring, unfortunately you took what I said out of context. I could care less its performance around a parking lot made course similar to an auto-x. No cover was made it was pretty straight forward the discussion is about this car and it 3900lbs of weight going around the ring at 7:38. If you eliminated the AWD system and associated components making it lighter it would go around the track faster. For your consumption again:
By ditching the AWD and associated components would reduce weight and therefore decrease its time around the track. Especially considering that this thing weighs in at a portly 3900lbs, it could use the reduction. Of course I am not supporting an engine swap, just dismissing your theory.
In response to
"a muscle car capable of some good times down the 1320 but not a 7:38 at Nurburgring", Notice the reference to its time around the track, notice my reply includes reducing that time.
So basically what your doing is meticulously attempting to pick a part every little word that i say, all the while ignoring my final conclusions.
I cannot help the fact that you cannot communicate at a level that is clear and concise to ensure that your very thought is being conveyed. It is apparent in your listening/reading skills that you cannot read and interpret properly.
So yes i disagree that ditching "all that technology" would make it slower around the nurburgring. yeah it would be lighter and RWD but thats not the point
Well yes it is the point being made, it is a 3900lb car, it could use weight reduction.
your forgetting that the ATTESSA system can simultaneously split torque between the front and rear wheels, in essence making it a RWD car when needed. So now what do you have left to argue? the car is lighter? and a lighter car will outperform its heavier brethren?
By eliminating the transfer case, the drive shaft, and the front differential, utilizing existing drive train components from an existing model will outperform the AWD version.
First question is do you have any idea how much lighter it would be? NO this is all talk and you have no unit of measurement to be able to tell if it would in fact be light enough to outweigh the benefits of its all wheel drive sytem
Not much difference in car parts, the drive shaft averages the same per length like any other vehicle, carbon fiber or not it will still come in at 20lbs. A transfer case made to accelerate a 3900 pig with that kind of horsepower, that is a given 80lbs on average, a front differential with internal components and all 140lb difference to a simple tubular member and suspension set up. At a minimum it would eliminate a good 250lbs. That is just major components, I am sure there are coolers, sensors, wiring, and mounting hardware that would probably take it over 300lbs easily. I have built my cars, have you?
second question or better yet a statement followed by a question. In the late 80's Audi entered the British touring car championship with there new quattro(torque sensing) all wheel drive system similar to the ATTESSA. Audi despite having less power and more weight demolished its competition and later it was banned with the excuse of them having an "unfair advantage"
Was it running around the ring? Nope, so it is irrelevant to what is being discussed. See at least I can pull a Porsche 997 GT2 AWD time off and compare it with a modified RWD platform of the same car and show proof that yes in fact the lighter RWD variant is faster, you on the other hand have nothing.
Question: do you think that since their AWD platform was banned they decided to come back with a RWD (therefore lighter) "and supposedly faster" version and defeat the competition even easier or did they go a different route? Search function will be your friend, and will also disprove your fact that the same car in RWD lighter form is faster, and also your irrelevant comparison of BMW's Torque Transfer system (not a true all wheel drive system) to other AWD systems.
Who cares? The ring times are posted, I can pull them all up and look at how a manufacturer went back with a RWD version to beat their own AWD version all day long. It is a fact that cannot be argued with. What next? Rally racing used for showing the importance of AWD and how it superior to RWD?