Like i said before, if anybody listened, if you got the connections and can do the labor yourself, then you can do this cheaper. there is always a way to do things cheaper, or nobody would ever make any money at anything. Walmart sells all their merchandise cheaper, yet the owner died worth 90 billion dollars. So somebody has to make money or we don't pay bills. if you have the talent, can get the parts cheap, then he's right. But i don't work out of my garage at my house and i don't spend hours and hours hunting down the absolute cheapest deals on the planet. That's for people who have budgets and live check to check. I sit in my office and pay people to work for me. But do you guys honestly expect me or any licensed and insured business to stop making money to do a swap for you guys for free? Does anybody really understand this concept? I've stated this before and i'll say it again....you can do this cheaper, so contact these few guys, give them $5k and demand they do the swap for you free of charge....there is always a desperate kid out there that wrecked his rsx and needs money badly so he'll sell his swap with 90,000 miles with no warranty on k20a.org and you can buy it and take a chance. you can let this moderator do the swap with no warranty and if he screws your car up i'm sure he's got insurance or cash to cover everything....