yea, i totally forgot earlier. i just went and checked it and this is what i got. right now im replacing my front subframe so my car is up in the front about two feet. the rear tires arent sitting really any lower than usual though. for the front and rears of an em1 the sway bar is attached to end links on either side that attach it to the control arms. from the center of one bolt that attaches the endlink to the control arm to the other is about 41.75". i measured over from the center of that bolt to the face of the end of the actual sway bar and its to the inside of the car about 1". making the overall length of the sway bar from face to face, (with weight and an stech with gr2 drop), about 39.75. hope that helps.