Originally Posted by HighPSI TSi Guy

What I meant though, was that after working on the damn things for 10 years, I don't see the shell, I look at them and see a big pile of part numbers, 90% of which are identical to a talon. You can be an elitist about it if you want, but it's still a talon in disguise to me. Or I guess you could say a Talon is a GVR4 disguised as a 2 door coupe if you'd rather.