Well I have a base 3k and they are good cars but have bad torque steer. mine is jst a tad slower then an evo but there is a huge power difference in it from my VR4. they are good cars but have some wiring issues. and the SL and base are car u jst have to look good they can beat most older cars. 3sx has a FWD turbo that runs 9's check out their website 3sx.com or go to 3si.org they are both good sites to visit. o and one last thing they have really good suspention.