Old Oct 27, 2009 | 06:05 AM
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Default Re: ASR 24mm rear sway bar, TEIN SS's. What for the front now??? Sway bar QUESTION

Originally Posted by Fabrik8
That doesn't really sound like a bushing problem. That would have to be some incredibly bad binding to make the bushings compete with the spring rate and damping in order to make the tires hop. I'm guessing it's an alignment problem, or that the shocks aren't setup properly.
You've got two probably very different cars, and you're trying to blame the bushings. It could be the bushings, but there are so many other variables that have a much larger effect and are much more likely to be the problem. Different tires, different alignment, different damping, different wheels weights, different brakes, different ride height, different sway bars, different weight distribution, the list goes on and on. Shit, could even be differences in engine braking (and/or the engine mounts) if the engines aren't identical.

My point is that there is most likely a lot more differences between the setup and hardware of two cars than there are similarities, so I'm not sure what kind of conclusions you can actually draw about bushings. I'm still not saying you're wrong, just that you're probably making too big of a leap in logic.
Leap in logic? What? I just proved that the es bushing is an inferior design because Hondas bushing ARE muli axis. I also told you that the cars were running the same set up. Alignment, springs and shocks (same valving just a different company did them). Also when I spoke to Chad Slagg (muli time HondaChallenge H1 mid atlantic champ) and Kevin Helms (also a H1 champ, owner of HondaWorks and builder of a pair of TSX's for the 2010 SpeedWorld Challenge). Both asked what bushings I was running when I told him about the chattering under braking. When I told them ES they both said get them off the car. OEM style or sphericals were their only recommendations. Now yes for a street driven car the ES bushing will be fine. The only reason this discussion got down to speaking about the specifics of bushings. Was because you told the op front suspension needing custom parts when that is not the case. Now you have answered questions about other subjects in the past and I'll thank you for that. But, in this case I will respectfully disagree with you.