thats what i heard to... but with the stock height of the corolla being so high, i cant find a good quality spring that will bring it down low enough to make it look decent... like the fender gap... right now with the coilovers all the way down, i have 1.3 inches clearance on the front and -.4 on the back... i want to lift the back up to be even with the front, but it just seems like it hasnt been worth lowering it.... i started thinkin i need to not think about the look, but go with some KYB gr-2's and maybe progress technologies springs that give it a 2.0 drop all the way around... to increase the handling and ride a bit, and still dropping it a modest amount. the eibach pro's are just to expensive for me right now.