And if I remember, I did fess up that it wasnt. And Way, I didnt mean to come across like I was being mean, was being nice. Sorry. And Heat, I got shyt to back up alot of stuff that says you guys make a mockery out of some "too slow" people I know. Thats why I said mine was 13 secs. Becasue I didn't wanna put up with the same amount of trashings that you guys gave some of my friends, just because they were "too slow and all stock". I respect all of you (most all of you) and it hurts to know that you gave some people a bunch of shyt just becasue they're slower than you. Who gives a shyt? its all in fun. Benz, I had fun with you and Jason and Beast and everyone Fri night, it was great! Sans all the personal questions from Jason...LOL..I suppose I'd be better off just answering them next time? And I really need to get my bodywork done on the Celica....that dent is a piece..sheesh. And to clarify on the "burnout" thing. How you stall an Automatic, someone let me know, becasue i've pretty much never heard of that being done. I sat there for a while, debating weather to go back over there or leave. And I didnt do anything any diff than those two stangs did the other night, flying through the parking lot doing 90 mph. And personally, heat, i could care less what my car "pales" to. It'll be "good enough" by standard in a few months, as soon as I get extra money. Will probably never be "good enough" by you guys standards, you pretty much set them so high and nobody else is ever good enough. Oh well, life's a bitch, then you marry one. I'm happy with the shyt I have, and personally I don't care what other people think, it has 4 wheels, runs like a charm, and gets me from point a to point b in a respectable amount of time. That's pretty much all I care about. Set your "standards and comparisons" as high as you want, one of these days my POS is gonna make someone look VERY bad.