i'm going 4 show and want lil go MORE IMPATIENT. thanx Skywalker. i seen an automatic Civic with a GSR motor, Prelude V-tec, Ls automatic tranny, V-tec controller, and T3/T4 Turbo beat a Supra in Atlanta MORE IMPATIENT and that dude told me that "automatics have the best track time". i sad heard.