People that say fuck that price realize they can get so much more car for less or equal. I like them both but I don't feel they are worth it. that's just my opinion.

As far as hyundai is concerned, they have really stepped their game up. I love the turbo sonatas and the boosted kia optima. Go ahead and downplay those cars. I'm fine with it. It will make them even more affordable when I'm ready to pick one up.