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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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Default Re: Lady hit me and im at fault

Originally Posted by Capster78
Not etirely true. So ill go back to my previous arguement!! This means that if someone runs thru a red light.. I have permission to sideswipe them. .
That's not an arguement....lol Nobody said you have permision but you do have the right of way. If you proceed to enter an intersection(you have the green), someone runs the light and you run into the side of them, it's their fault. Now a smart driver(defensive driver) should look left and right before entering the intersection, but there is nothing in the law that says you have to. If you hit them, oh well as long as you have the right of way.

Originally Posted by Capster78
Yes, it is a matter of timeing. If she hit him in the side this means he was well on his way to the intersection before she pulled out. But of course she was probably A) talking on the cell phone B) Brushing her hair, messing with makup, looking in the mirror C) fiddling with the radio..D) late for her manicure and was not paying attention. She failed to look for oncoming traffic. .
I agree that someone wasn't paying attention. Because she hit him in the side doesn't mean he was well into the intersection before she started. It might imply that but you first have to see the size of the intersection and speed of the vehicles.

Originally Posted by Capster78
When your making a turn onto a main road you yield to oncoming traffic. Your light could be green and so could oncoming traffic at the same time. So it is the law no matter what color the light is to yield before you make a turn onto a main road.. unless of course its a large intersections with two main roads crossing each other. You will usually have a green arrow that will allow you to proceed thru the intersection without yielding (on green). Even then 90% of the time you get stoped by the light at the intersection before you make the turn..
I'm not sure what you're saying here(we may have the same idea but it's getting crossed in the traslation...lol)
Now you mention something being the Law. Please post it so we can read what you're talking about.
It doesn't matter what kind of road you are on or what kind of road it crosses. Any intersection governed by a traffic light, the green has the right of way. Even if you are on a minor two way RD getting ready to cross a main six lane RD. Green=Right of way.

Now correct me if I'm wrong here. From the story...
Orange is east on the Blvd
She is west on the Blvd
She gets into the left turn lane and makes a left turn crossing your path.
According to her and her witness, she had a green turn signal and Orange ran the light. Orange also validated that the turn lane has a turn signal(he stated it takes about 2 min.s for it to turn)
If she did have a green arrow, she has the Right-of-way and he is at fault. There is no arguement to this, if it happened like the above(I know Orange says he had the green).

Sec. 21-240. Right-of-way when turning left.
The driver of a vehicle intending to turn to the left within an intersection or into an alley, private road or driveway, shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle approaching from the opposite direction which is so close as to constitute a hazard; provided, however, that where there is an automatic signal device governing the flow of traffic at any intersection and allowing turns to the left while all other vehicular traffic is required to stop, any vehicle making such turn shall have the right-of-way over all other vehicles approaching the intersection. (code 1965, 22-124)
State law reference-similar provisions, code of virginia 46.2-825


Originally Posted by Capster78
Based on the facts so far

She admited going 45 around a turn (even if it was 25 or 30).. she did not yield.. and it was probably a secoundary road because at most major intersections you wont be able to make a turn at 45-30-20mph unless your the first in line at the light.. (And I dont know anyone who accelerates to that speed from a stop thru a turn after the light turns green) or your trying to beat a yellow light.. So this is my conclusion..
If it was a secoundary road she probably ran a red light or did not yield to oncoming traffic on the main road
If this was two main roads.. she ran a red ligh or was trying to beat a red light and lost.
Well the only fact in this last part is "he" says she admitted to taking the turn at 45mph. The rest is just an assumption. Well you did leave out there was an independent witness that says she had the green arrow and he ran the light.

I love to debate....lol

Last edited by vbgsx; Jun 16, 2004 at 10:06 PM.