Originally Posted by NighthawkRSX
If these "imagines" are anything like they used to make spyder's, then they placed the venturi bolt in the upper champer of the frame, which made it ultimately notorious for breaking half the paint that comes out of it. I'm not bashing the company, just these cheap electronic markers that cannot compete with the electro's from Angel, Bushmaster, Automag, etc. Sure, it can fire over 45 cycles per second, but the question is, how much paint is going torwards your target at that speed?
Interesting that you say that, because Angel bolts are also located in the top chamber. That's because all bolts function is simply to push the ball into the barrel and deliver air to the backside of the ball. I've chopped just as many balls in my Angel as my Spyder, and nowadays, I can't chop in my Spyder, but I will still chop in my Angel, even with COPS on. Chopping is a problem with every marker on the market that uses a bolt. These problems are easily fixed whether mechanically (lighter mainspring or lower-pressure LPR or Anti-Chop bolt) or electronically (Anti-Chop Eyes).
The only other issue I can think of is trigger setup. You can mod the ESP trigger frames to accept as little as 25g activation microswitches or Hall Effect Sensors (activated by a magnet on the back of the trigger). These basically give you the "floating trigger" of higher-end guns. All the weight comes down to gravity and spring/magnet tension. And volume of paint going towards your target? As much as you can pull the trigger for... or even more if the debounce is cranked down.
Originally Posted by NighthawkRSX
Probably half.
That's pretty much right. At this point in the industry, the fastest you can reliably feed paintballs into a marker is approx 21-23 balls per second with the Odyssey Halo B loader. The limitation on most markers now is not speed of cycles, but speed of feeding. Once the feeding speed exceeds even higher, then gun limitations can be met. However, 35bps flying towards you and your bunker would not be the greatest site or feel.
Originally Posted by NighthawkRSX
Again, the Kingman regulator is a piece of shit. And define "Variety". You make it seem that your FPS readings are going to come up similar to 230, 280, 220, etc. I would give it +-10fps. I don't see any sense in wasting so much money to regulate a mere +-10fps. Most field limits are 300fps, and paint is most accurate around 270-280fps.
Yes, the Kingman regulator does suck. It has a poor recharge rate and is very restrictive. Variety - Spikes in velocity caused by CO2 can spike as high as 10-20fps over the original setting. Sometimes that extra regulation (+/- 1-5fps) can be the difference between eliminating your opponent or getting shot by his stream.
Seeing as a Spyder has one of the most effective internal regulators/valve (it self-compensates variances in pressure behind it) in paintball, you really don't even need an inline regulator on a Spyder. There is a good use for an inline regulator on a Spyder though. The internal valve of the Spyder works best in a certain pressure range (all depends on the spring setup). If the inline regulator can keep the air in the air chamber to that range, you will have great consistancy. Any variance in pressure in the air chamber at that time is compensated by the valve. So for $50 + a $20 anti-siphon tube installed or just a $75 preset HPA tank, you can have a very consistant Spyder.
Originally Posted by NighthawkRSX
And if these guns are setup like they used to, then the air source enters an external regulator, then the expansion chamber in the foregrip, followed by the internal regulator. Velocity readings aren't going to be based on a shitty external reg alone.
Yes, but liquid CO2 will still give you a variance. If liquid is still in the air chamber, the valve can't compensate for what the denser liquid will expand into when the shot is fired.
Of course velocity readings aren't going to be based on an inline reg alone. Velocity readings depend on your entire air system and paint.
Originally Posted by NighthawkRSX
Wow, we actually agree. HPA is a better air source, but if you can afford the tank for HPA, then you can most likely afford something better than a rackity entry level electro. And HPA is not "easy to get". You're going to find CO2 a hell of a lot more than High Pressure. If you know where to find it, then it's "easy" to get.
Sure is a good air source, and it's not as expensive as it used to be. You can now get HPA systems for as low as $75 (these are good systems). You can also find HPA fills at nearly all fields, definitely all the fields around here. You may be able to afford a higher-end gun with the money saved for a HPA system for your Spyder, but then you'll still need to dish out the $75+ for a HPA system for the higher-end marker. I wouldn't dare put CO2 through my Angel or Emag.
Originally Posted by NighthawkRSX
In the end, you just babbled about basic information with way too many words. I commend your efforts.
And yours aswell! Nice car btw.