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i dont think thats what they are trying to get at, just saying if you want alot of flex, thats the way to go. IFS trucks just cant take all the abuse that a SAS truck can. i would take a SFA truck over an IFS truck anyday to build as a trail rig or a mud truck. but you are right, what all is the OP intending on doing with it?
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IFS trucks suck....I've seen them in action.....I've had a 92 4runner that sucked wheeling.
The higher you lift an IFS truck the more strain you put on the balljoints and wheel bearings.
What I've experienced and see on the trails, taller, bigger wheeled IFS trucks did ok on non articulating situations, once you threw one wheel higher then the other, tires started coming off the ground, no traction and lots of things starting to break. Hell I had to drive out of a trail with two broken front axle shafts on my 4runner.
My Jeep will out perform any IFS truck on the trails that doesn't involve thick stinky big rut mud slinging holes
The higher you lift an IFS truck the more strain you put on the balljoints and wheel bearings.
What I've experienced and see on the trails, taller, bigger wheeled IFS trucks did ok on non articulating situations, once you threw one wheel higher then the other, tires started coming off the ground, no traction and lots of things starting to break. Hell I had to drive out of a trail with two broken front axle shafts on my 4runner.
My Jeep will out perform any IFS truck on the trails that doesn't involve thick stinky big rut mud slinging holes
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IFS trucks suck....I've seen them in action.....I've had a 92 4runner that sucked wheeling.
The higher you lift an IFS truck the more strain you put on the balljoints and wheel bearings.
What I've experienced and see on the trails, taller, bigger wheeled IFS trucks did ok on non articulating situations, once you threw one wheel higher then the other, tires started coming off the ground, no traction and lots of things starting to break. Hell I had to drive out of a trail with two broken front axle shafts on my 4runner.
My Jeep will out perform any IFS truck on the trails that doesn't involve thick stinky big rut mud slinging holes
The higher you lift an IFS truck the more strain you put on the balljoints and wheel bearings.
What I've experienced and see on the trails, taller, bigger wheeled IFS trucks did ok on non articulating situations, once you threw one wheel higher then the other, tires started coming off the ground, no traction and lots of things starting to break. Hell I had to drive out of a trail with two broken front axle shafts on my 4runner.
My Jeep will out perform any IFS truck on the trails that doesn't involve thick stinky big rut mud slinging holes
My Cherokee was the same way. Fucking destroyed the IFS trucks twice as big.
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IFS trucks suck....I've seen them in action.....I've had a 92 4runner that sucked wheeling.
The higher you lift an IFS truck the more strain you put on the balljoints and wheel bearings.
What I've experienced and see on the trails, taller, bigger wheeled IFS trucks did ok on non articulating situations, once you threw one wheel higher then the other, tires started coming off the ground, no traction and lots of things starting to break. Hell I had to drive out of a trail with two broken front axle shafts on my 4runner.
My Jeep will out perform any IFS truck on the trails that doesn't involve thick stinky big rut mud slinging holes
The higher you lift an IFS truck the more strain you put on the balljoints and wheel bearings.
What I've experienced and see on the trails, taller, bigger wheeled IFS trucks did ok on non articulating situations, once you threw one wheel higher then the other, tires started coming off the ground, no traction and lots of things starting to break. Hell I had to drive out of a trail with two broken front axle shafts on my 4runner.
My Jeep will out perform any IFS truck on the trails that doesn't involve thick stinky big rut mud slinging holes
I was all about a solid axle swap in my Toyota but I took it to Crozet with IFS and an Aussie locker. It did surprisingly well (at least to me and the others there) for what it is. If went everywhere I cared to take it (I'm not into severe body damage and I drove it there so I needed it to be able to take me home). So, unless I get a trailer and a tow rig, it's staying IFS. It also serves double duty as the household truck making trips to lowe's etc...so it needs to have an acceptable street ride. That is why I think we need to know what the OP is planning on doing with the truck.
And, FTR, the picture in my signature was taken shortly after I drove my IFS Toyota around a TJ that broke an aftermarket panhard bar ball joint on that trail at Crozet. Yeah, Jeeps are awesome.
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I was only speaking from my experience with it ... 89 chevy k-1500 I spent plenty of money on cv axles ball joints and control arms ... not to mention the pain it was to keep it somewhat aligned ... besides all that disassembling it is a PITA ... and i was just speaking in general not at you directly
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I was only speaking from my experience with it ... 89 chevy k-1500 I spent plenty of money on cv axles ball joints and control arms ... not to mention the pain it was to keep it somewhat aligned ... besides all that disassembling it is a PITA ... and i was just speaking in general not at you directly
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I'm not saying that IFS is better than SA. All I am saying is that it may be enough for what he wants to do.
I was all about a solid axle swap in my Toyota but I took it to Crozet with IFS and an Aussie locker. It did surprisingly well (at least to me and the others there) for what it is. If went everywhere I cared to take it (I'm not into severe body damage and I drove it there so I needed it to be able to take me home). So, unless I get a trailer and a tow rig, it's staying IFS. It also serves double duty as the household truck making trips to lowe's etc...so it needs to have an acceptable street ride. That is why I think we need to know what the OP is planning on doing with the truck.
And, FTR, the picture in my signature was taken shortly after I drove my IFS Toyota around a TJ that broke an aftermarket panhard bar ball joint on that trail at Crozet. Yeah, Jeeps are awesome.![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I was all about a solid axle swap in my Toyota but I took it to Crozet with IFS and an Aussie locker. It did surprisingly well (at least to me and the others there) for what it is. If went everywhere I cared to take it (I'm not into severe body damage and I drove it there so I needed it to be able to take me home). So, unless I get a trailer and a tow rig, it's staying IFS. It also serves double duty as the household truck making trips to lowe's etc...so it needs to have an acceptable street ride. That is why I think we need to know what the OP is planning on doing with the truck.
And, FTR, the picture in my signature was taken shortly after I drove my IFS Toyota around a TJ that broke an aftermarket panhard bar ball joint on that trail at Crozet. Yeah, Jeeps are awesome.
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