where did i change what i said? heres where you changed my words in case you missed it

you say that i said: "You told a dude that removing fairings will ONLY matter with a liter bike and NOT a 600."

i actually said : "a 600 won't be as bad, but a liter bike with out fairings is a hell of a thing to hang onto"

and then you tell me i can bring up different tracks all i want, haha your the one that brought up vir being the exception to the rule so your talking to yourself on that one

the scary thing is, i think you actually believe all the stuff you are saying

 

After this post, there is no need for rebuttle. I havent been taking anyones side on the subject, since i havent been on the track before. Though the laws of physics are on Del's side. In short, what i got from him was :If your on a liter bike which can go atleast 20 miles faster than a 600--without the fairings you will feel like your going to be ripped off the bike. With a 600 it wont be quite as bad, as you are going 20 mph slower than a liter bike, however, its not "quite as bad" but its still a problem because 160mph is enough force to want to remove anyone from anything. Physics decrees that a 600 with less hp doesnt have as much force constantly pushing it, therefore there isnt QUITE as much force pushing against it. But with a liter bikes higher hp/higher force pushing it it will have a higher force pushing back against it, and without fairings/windscreen YOU WILL FEEL IT, but it wont be "QUITE AS BAD" on a 600.

God damn, maybe i should write reviews for movies. Just cut out all the drama and get straight to the basic plot/info. In other words, this thread turned into a drama for no apparent reason and my review of it should make the drama/bickering back and forth stop.

 

man the only reason I ask is because my coz offer me to take his bike to a track day thats all and bret went to a track day without fairings one day. Also the bike is a theme bike. That makes the fairings harder to find and more money. Never really ask about CC and shit but ohh well. Live and learn ! Now back to the subject when is the first track day?

 

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the reason i said anything cc's is just because my experience of track daying with out fairings was on a 1000 and you'd be on a 600, my experience it was a hell of a thing to hold on to but just wanted to say your experience could be different

why don't you just take the ninja?

 

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soniccbr said:
Even a 1000 won't see 180 without aerodynamics. Aero's play a big part in speeds over 140-150, as big or more than HP.

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xtrm said:
So.... let ME ask you both a question....

If I was on my R6 and some dude was on his zx10... would I be able to pass him on the front straight???

answer..... HELL YES!!!

It has been done and will stand the test of time.... I say this...anyone that thinks they need a liter bike to go fast on the track needs to have their head checked... either that... or needs to go to the GP...

How about this... fairings or no fairings 1000 or 600... if you don't know how to ride YOUR bike then fairings wont matter. "period"

have fun guys.

oh, and by the way.... fairings on a 600 will matter more then they will on a 1000... for lap times that is. A 1000 has the power (with the right rider) to pull through the wind... us "cool people" (j/k) need the aerodyminamics (hehehe) to pull us through the wind...

I'm hoping that everyone here at least takes the time to read Xtrm's last paragraph.................different reasoning (better than mine), but the SAME conclusion.

 

hahahaha man your hilarious... that isn't even remotely the point i was argueing, and you know that, he obviously didn't take the time to read what i was even talking about

i never said a word about which bike needed aerodynamics to push through the wind or not and i've stated this over and over, i'm talking about how hard it is to hang onto the handlebars with the wind kicking your ass on a straight away... and i'm still right and your still wrong

 

I should take the ninja out but trying to sale it and get another bike a gsxr 2001 to 2003... its all depends you know.Also the ninja is a wheelie bike. No fun there you know. Got too many things on my plate right now so trying to think smart

 

your better off with a bike you are more familiar with.