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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BluestedSRT
I didn't read the whole thread, but the same was said about Apple Computer in the early 90's. Everyone said they were a sinking ship, and they would be out of business in 4-5 yrs. Well it didn't happen, now they have more cash on hand than FED/EX and UPS combined.

Apple is not a Fortune 50 company! UPS is.....And to give you an idea of how much business UPS does, there are over 15 million packages shipped a DAY!
Old Aug 3, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Default Re: Anybody wanna see a ship sink?

Originally Posted by blaxican25
That's because slow = safe.

Old Aug 3, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tie fitr
You think Ford makes a vehicle they know is dangerous, but put it into production because it's cheaper to pay insurance claims then to make the vehicle safe. Correct?
Sort of. My point is that not only did they know it was dangerous (what vehicle isn't?) but they new it would without a doubt kill people when it shouldn't. They saw proof of cars flipping and exploding before the first bolt went into the first production units. With plenty of time to fix it, and save the lives of their customers. Then they decided to go ahead and produce the deadly vehicle thinking it would save them money. They've done this AT LEAST three times and it's caused them to lose money every time. Why?

Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Dave it's basic business and many companies have done it... I'm not saying it's right. They do a cost analysis and figure out which route is cheaper.
Well, I've only heard of or seen proof of Ford doing it (with automobiles, anyway) and it's never proven to be a good business move for them.

Just look at the way they're thriving today!

I bet if all the customers they killed had lived they'd still be buying Fords. Talk about a abysmal business plan.

Which brings us back on topic...
Old Aug 3, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Narrator:"A new car built by my company
leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The
rear differential locks up. The car crashes
and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now:
should we initiate a recall? Take the number
of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the
probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the
average out-of-court settlement, C. A times
B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost
of a recall, we don't do one."

Business woman on plane: "Are there a lot of
these kinds of accidents?"

Narrator: "You wouldn't believe."

Business woman on plane: "Which car company do
you work for?"

Narrator: "A major one."
Old Aug 3, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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Default Re: Anybody wanna see a ship sink?

Originally Posted by Chris G.
Apple is not a Fortune 50 company! UPS is.....And to give you an idea of how much business UPS does, there are over 15 million packages shipped a DAY!
I understand they ship a lot. but they don't have the money on hand that Apple has.

Current Assets
Cash and Equivalents Apple = 3,491,000
Fed/ex=1,937,000
UPS =1,369,000

And apple hasen't posted thier balance sheet for 06. Those are 05 numbers.

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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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^ Fight Club FTW
Old Aug 3, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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Default Re: Anybody wanna see a ship sink?

Originally Posted by dave22
Sort of. My point is that not only did they know it was dangerous (what vehicle isn't?) but they new it would without a doubt kill people when it shouldn't. They saw proof of cars flipping and exploding before the first bolt went into the first production units. With plenty of time to fix it, and save the lives of their customers. Then they decided to go ahead and produce the deadly vehicle thinking it would save them money. They've done this AT LEAST three times and it's caused them to lose money every time. Why?
I understand, and that's why I said That any car company that makes a vehicle that they know could be safer, but they don't make it safer, and still produce the car, then they are doing the same think you think Ford is doing. They are all the same, whether you hear about it or not. Every vehicle model gets into accidents. Say for example that 2% of the occupants involved in a head on collision while driving a car with a 3 star crash test rating, but only 1% die in a vehicle with a 5 star rating, but a company knowingly produces a 3 star rated car anyway, then that means they are ok with an extra 1% of their customers dieing. They all know what crash ratings their cars will have before production, but yet they all make cars that aren't 5 star rated. Isn't this the same principle you said Ford does?
Also if Ford has much worse practices then other companies, then why are they not the most deadly vewhicles on the road?
Old Aug 3, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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lol ford aint going nowhere......
Old Aug 3, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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(my random comment for the day)

ford still hasnt fixed thier issue with vehicles randomly catching fire due to thier one wire that is continuously hot have they?
Old Aug 3, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bandit
(my random comment for the day)

ford still hasnt fixed thier issue with vehicles randomly catching fire due to thier one wire that is continuously hot have they?
If that's the problem in the Explorer/Expedition, etc, then yes, they have.



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