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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NFCstang
So basically you're pissed because it's going to cost you extra money when you break the law.
Said the guy that got pulled over couple months ago with a dress on....



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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by IMSHAKN
Prove it.

The only road in VA that has a minimum speed limit is the Bay-Bridge Tunnel. There is not a set minimum speed limit on any other highway in VA so that drivers can make adjustments due to road conditions. You can get a speeding ticket for doing 35 in a 55 in nasty road conditions.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/e...oc/vaspeed.pdf

If you read the law carefully there is no provision to allow speeds under 45MPH on an Interstate highway. Maximum speeds of 35MPH or less exclude interstate highways in their descriptions.

If you still don't believe it, ask a trooper.
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 4SFED4
http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/e...oc/vaspeed.pdf

If you read the law carefully there is no provision to allow speeds under 45MPH on an Interstate highway. Maximum speeds of 35MPH or less exclude interstate highways in their descriptions.

If you still don't believe it, ask a trooper.
Are you having trouble reading? Your source does not back up your statements...other than the fact that highways must have a Maximum speed limit of at least 35MPH. You just backed up everything that I said while disproving your own statements.

If you read the law carefully, there is no provision that prohibits speeds under 45MPH. The law doesn't work the way you suggest...you are permitted to do something unless it is specifically prohibited.

The minimum speed is up to interpretation, and changes based on road conditions as quoted from your source:

Minimum Speed Limit: I. No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic. '46.2-877 (&1) II. A person, driving at less than the normal speed of traffic, shall drive in the lane nearest the right edge or right curb of the highway when such lane is available for travel. There is an exception to this requirement if the right lane of a particular highway has been Basis for a Speed Law Violation: (continued) Minimum Speed Limit: (continued) reserved for slow-moving traffic. 46.2-804(1)
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 02GT
Said the guy that got pulled over couple months ago with a dress on....



PS: Please don't flip my car
Nah...I was just pissed that he was sitting at the 15mph sign and hitting people slowing down from 25.

Was I speeding? Technically yes, but it's still a dick move
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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you don't have to use a signal if it doesn't impede traffic right? i heard that from mr. stanley a lawyer for a friend of mine
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NFCstang
So basically you're pissed because it's going to cost you extra money when you break the law.
Hell yea! It is basically a hidden tax increase and in alot of cases the punishment far exceeds the crime. Sure make it tougher on dui offenses but don't rape a person that gets a ticket for rolling thru a stop sign when nothing is coming!
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cmccarron
Hell yea! It is basically a hidden tax increase and in alot of cases the punishment far exceeds the crime. Sure make it tougher on dui offenses but don't rape a person that gets a ticket for rolling thru a stop sign when nothing is coming!
Then I'd recommend stopping
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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This reminds me of when my school district was charging every student something like $35, for a "usage fee". The thought they could get around it because it wasn't to attend school, only to use the facilities, they got sued and lost.

There are a lot of shady stuff the governments do to try and get away with this stuff, the founding fathers should be rolling in their graves.
Old Jul 5, 2007 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Fox 5
BAD DRIVER FEES

NEW: Abusive driver fees likely to face court challenge

WAVERLY, Va. (AP) -- New fees imposed on bad drivers from Virginia -- but NOT those from out-of-state -- are the talk of the town in Waverly.

Police keep a close watch on the approximately 13-thousand vehicles a day that pass through the town of three-thousand people on U-S Route 460.

Like many of her constituents, Waverly Mayor Susan Irving has no quarrel with the so-called "abusive driver fees." What she can't abide is the fact that they only apply to Virginians. She says that everywhere, people are talking about how unfair it is and what can be done about it.

The steep fees are intended to raise money for state highway projects. They apply only to Virginians because failure to pay results in a suspended driver's license -- and the state doesn't have any authority to suspend out-of-state licenses.

Defense lawyers already are preparing a court challenge. One possible argument is that the fees exclusive to Virginians violate the equal protection clause of the U-S Constitution.
http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/pages/N...Y&pageId=3.2.1
Old Jul 5, 2007 | 05:24 AM
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This happens all the time with new laws. There are certain to be attorneys who will come up with creative arguments as to why a new law is unconstitutional. They will make their arguments in front of a judge who will determine if the law is in fact unconstitutional. We'll just have to wait and see how it plays out in court.



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