AA Motorsports (NOVA) Lorton, Va
-and regarding you ordering parts from me, I honestly don't recall ... but I'm obviously not losing any sleep over the loss of your business, so it couldn't have been that important.
I stopped by when he was cleaning up the other week and the motor that I was told was the one in question did in fact have these issues.
Considering you are the same guy that shows up 8 hours late and after hours, unprepared at that even then cries that nobody is there to help you AFTER HOURS WHEN EVERYONE HAS GONE HOME I have no problem fully believing Atif on this one.
Considering you are the same guy that shows up 8 hours late and after hours, unprepared at that even then cries that nobody is there to help you AFTER HOURS WHEN EVERYONE HAS GONE HOME I have no problem fully believing Atif on this one.
First of all - How can you be sure the motor he presented to you was In Fact the motor I traded him? Not to mention the fact that it wasn't missing parts (i.e. distributor, etc) when the trade took place.
I NEVER claimed to spend $1000.00 on a Fucking Wiring harness!! Thats Ludicrous!! I spent $250 on a custom harness from JDM Motorsports in Miami FL, yes. but his statements are FARRRR From Accurate!
-and for the LAST time - I showed up 2 hours late for my tune because I got called into the Police station for questioning that day. I informed Atif of the situation and HE TOLD ME TO COME STILL... He knew I was running behind, and told me to come anyways.
NOT TO MENTION - everytime I did business with Atif it was "after hours" so I'm done trying to defend my point. There is NOTHING positive to say about this Pathological Liar!!
Last edited by p2r; Nov 12, 2008 at 12:24 PM.
The real question is what are you going to do about this since you say atif is such a "scammer" and and now a friend of mine is without a car because of your bad deals. Honestly dont even bother answering because i already know what the usual scammer response will be.
As for the b16 swap atif's paying to get her a new one even though he's not liable for it, but anyone reading this post should easily be able to tell who the real scammer is.
All jokes aside I KNOW for a FACT that the motor with the knock is the motor you gave atif since we installed it in a friends car a couple of weeks back only to start it up and find that the motor had a knock and the clutch and flywheel were severely F***
The real question is what are you going to do about this since you say atif is such a "scammer" and and now a friend of mine is without a car because of your bad deals. Honestly dont even bother answering because i already know what the usual scammer response will be.
The real question is what are you going to do about this since you say atif is such a "scammer" and and now a friend of mine is without a car because of your bad deals. Honestly dont even bother answering because i already know what the usual scammer response will be.
It's cool that AA Motorsports is sourcing another one for you, but AA Motorsports being a "Professional Business" that engine should have never left their shop in the condition it was in.
Wait, so you installed the engine you got from AA Motorsports, and are blaming the person who supplied the engine? Sounds to me like AA Motorsports did you dirty giving you an engine that they were aware was in questionable condition.
It's cool that AA Motorsports is sourcing another one for you, but AA Motorsports being a "Professional Business" that engine should have never left their shop in the condition it was in.
It's cool that AA Motorsports is sourcing another one for you, but AA Motorsports being a "Professional Business" that engine should have never left their shop in the condition it was in.
That doesn't help his argument. So now it becomes this:
Still cool that AA Motorsports is sourcing the replacement engine, but it doesn't change the fact that people there knew the engine was not in sellable condition and let it leave the shop anyway, bad ethics.
Originally Posted by ProbeGT-ZE
Holy crap you were a TECH WORKING THERE and then you installed an engine that, since you worked there I'm assuming, you KNEW was in questionable condition in your friends car? WOW PWND by your employer and I feel bad for your friend.
First of all - How can you be sure the motor he presented to you was In Fact the motor I traded him? Not to mention the fact that it wasn't missing parts (i.e. distributor, etc) when the trade took place.
I NEVER claimed to spend $1000.00 on a Fucking Wiring harness!! Thats Ludicrous!! I spent $250 on a custom harness from JDM Motorsports in Miami FL, yes. but his statements are FARRRR From Accurate!
-and for the LAST time - I showed up 2 hours late for my tune because I got called into the Police station for questioning that day. I informed Atif of the situation and HE TOLD ME TO COME STILL... He knew I was running behind, and told me to come anyways.
NOT TO MENTION - everytime I did business with Atif it was "after hours" so I'm done trying to defend my point. There is NOTHING positive to say about this Pathological Liar!!
I NEVER claimed to spend $1000.00 on a Fucking Wiring harness!! Thats Ludicrous!! I spent $250 on a custom harness from JDM Motorsports in Miami FL, yes. but his statements are FARRRR From Accurate!
-and for the LAST time - I showed up 2 hours late for my tune because I got called into the Police station for questioning that day. I informed Atif of the situation and HE TOLD ME TO COME STILL... He knew I was running behind, and told me to come anyways.
NOT TO MENTION - everytime I did business with Atif it was "after hours" so I'm done trying to defend my point. There is NOTHING positive to say about this Pathological Liar!!
You did not show up 2 hours late, you showed up at least 5 hours late. I did tell you to come when you were only 2 hours behind, but if you recall correctly, you did not leave for another 3 hours after that and then I directly instructed you not to come. I even told you my tuner was leaving and then you told me you would come anyways to pick up the gaskets and starter.
Yes you did do business with me after hours the first time, because I graciously waited until 3am for you to show. On the occasion for the tuning, you were instructed, specifically, to come during shop hours.
You even forgot to bring your jumper harness, as directed to do so as well, so there was no way to tune your car either way. I kept my end of the bargain. It was you that lacked on your end. There were many people at the shop that day to prove this side of the story and they have voiced in on your lies, so please go complain somewhere else!
We installed it under the pretense that it was a good, reliable, well-built motor. Why should we have thought otherwise? It was represented to us in that manner. I like to trust what I am told while making a sale.
A compression test would not have shown the condition of the head. We did not know, prior to installing the engine, that it was bad.
If I didn't decide to use the trans on another car, I would never have known that the swap had a fried clutch and warped eBay flywheel, which both were misrepresented. Then I continued to take the transmission apart, and to my surprise, the Quaife LSD that was supposed to be installed in the trans, turned out to be a garbage eBay Blox LSD.
We are not here to state that p2r scammed our friend who purchased the motor, but to show that what p2r sold us, under the false representation that it was in mint condition, was defective. I am not saying that p2r has to replace the motor for our friend, just stating that it we are eating the cost on replacing the head.
Also, the car did not leave the shop in that condition, upon initial start up it was clear that the motor was built quite poorly, and with parts that were way below the par of description.
That is what is being said. Don't try to twist or misconstrue the situation because you may or may not like AA Motorsports. Facts are Facts and that is all I am here to represent.
p2r was offered all of his stuff back. He chose not to trade back! Then he was offered free machine work, and he also chose not to pursue that. I wonder why, well actually I don't. It's because he knew what he sold us was garbage and he didn't want his garbage back.
Last edited by atifsays; Nov 12, 2008 at 02:21 PM.
On a side note if you bought a motor off of someone on a forum and they stated this motor came out of my car and ran perfect and it didnt, then i believe you would call that a scam, yes there are situations were the buyer bought the motor second hand and doesnt know the condition but price should be reflected accordingly(and it was)
so really an unbiast response should have went something like this
Last edited by ಠ__ಠ; Nov 12, 2008 at 02:14 PM.







