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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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Default How to get a total loss adjusters report?

Hi Guys, I am in need of assistance getting my 08 CBR600rr titled in VA.

I purchased this Bike on ebay from a PA dealer wrecked with a PA salvage certificate. They purchased it from an insurance auction. So I don't know which company, and they wont tell me any info, and won't get me a report after repeated requests. Is there a report search available to insurance companies, or the police that can look up total loss history and show the insurance company at least, or the original owner?
I can supply the VIN, and PAYPAL anyone $100 who can help me get this issue resolved

I made the repairs myself, mostly plastics, with front forks, and minor parts. I made an attempt to transfer the PA salvage certificate to a Virginia one, and
the VA salvage work center rejected the application, they stated I needed OFFICIAL itemized estimates of repair with the VIN, and cash value from the seller, or insurance company.
I sent them an itemized list of all the parts it needed and my cost for those parts.

I think this is ridiculous because it already has a PA salvage certificate, why can't it transfer straight over to a VA one in my name?

Either way, It appears I will be jumping through hoops.

Does anyone have any experience in this certain situation?
Or if you work at a motorcycle rebuilders/repair shop, would I be able to get a quick estimate written up with the list of parts and approximate labor needed to install? I have the list already made. The dealer I bought it from is dragging their feet on providing this paperwork, so I will make attempts to get it elsewhere. I checked with the PA DMV and they do not require this estimate when getting a PA salavage title, so they don't have it on file.
Any tips of tricks would be great.
Thanks
-Dan

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I posted this in the auto forum because it's more about getting an insurance report than the fact that it's a motorcycle.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Default Re: How to get a total loss adjusters report?

you cannot transfer a salvage certificate from PA to VA.


you can apply for a salvage rebuild, which it sounds like you have been doing, but you have to have it done correctly, which sounds like your problem.

When you purchased it, you should have purchased it with a title, not a salvage certificate. it would be a branded title, which is a pain to deal with but is easier than what you are doing.

according to the MVDB book I have in front of me, a PA title (light blue with dark border) will have a brand code of R on it if it is a reconstruct.

Sounds to me that they bought it as a salvage certificate, not title, which is the same as it is in VA for a salvage certificate. Which cannot be titled with the same VIN number ever again, has to go through a reconstruct process.

Here is where it gets tricky: VA has several title brands. Rebuilt, repaired, non-repairable, reconstructed, and now a flood brand after Katrena. Rebuilt is a salvage vehicle whose damage exceeds 75% value, reconstructed is less than 75%, non-repairable is listed as above 90%, reconstructed is a vehicle that has been extensively altered (kit cars usually) and flood is one with water damage that exceeds 1000 clams.

That is the tricky part (I run into it every now and then with rebuilds from NC). Since PA has a much different titling process, you will run into some problems.


They likely bought it through Manheim, but where they bought it really doesnt matter. you have a bike with a salvage certificate, which basically means it is useable for parts only. You rebuilt the vehicle, but it was not titled in VA initially so it really screws with the process.

To title this vehicle and have it road worthy you will need the help of a licensed rebuilder in the commonwealth of VA. I see no other way of doing it and having it work with the DMV.

Basically, they will need to file the forms, and have the inspector come out and approve the repairs/vehicle and paperwork. They then issue a rebuilt VIN number for the vehicle, and a branded title of a rebuilt motorcycle.

There is no way a private individual will be able to make it work with the paperwork trail you have going for you right now.

Unless the seller of the bike in PA is willing to apply for a rebuilt title in PA, then transfer it to you in PA, then you transfer the title from PA to a VA title.

Either way its gonna cost you 200-500 bucks most likely.

I will check with my DMV man on the salvage side later on this week when I go out there, the one for this area is Jason in the Christiansburg service center.

send the info I requested in PM to the email I sent you, and I will see what I can do to help you out.

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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Default Re: How to get a total loss adjusters report?

^^Sounds like you might want to find a frame on ebay and start transferring stuff.
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Default Re: How to get a total loss adjusters report?

Clear title frames go for about $2000 on ebay, so not really trying to do that.
Thanks for the response fc735, I will send that info to you shortly.
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bump,
Anyone know of a motorcycle rebuilder in the area?
Also some place that can give me an official appraisal document for the bike?
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