acceleration needed
^damnit you beat me to it! you were writing as i was
Ok in the long run yes but for the budget minded entushiest it just isn't the way to go B series cost more to build (TRUST ME ON THIS ONE!) and everything is more expensive for them. People all but give away single cam stock shit so it is cheap to pick up.
First off Mini Me that bitch then see where your at if you want more 50 shot you will be happy with that. Or buy a used greddy kit or drag kit or apexi kit they all go for cheap used. www.honda-tech.com check periodiclly in the classifieds for parts you will be suprised at how cheap you can pick stuff up
Originally Posted by SolarEclipse
DOHC will still kick SOCH ass all day long and produce more torque and power dont be cheap just get the swap
First off Mini Me that bitch then see where your at if you want more 50 shot you will be happy with that. Or buy a used greddy kit or drag kit or apexi kit they all go for cheap used. www.honda-tech.com check periodiclly in the classifieds for parts you will be suprised at how cheap you can pick stuff up
or you can get a swap for $1350
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615
Originally Posted by SolarEclipse
or you can get a swap for $1350
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615
Yea go ahead and read that a little better that isn't a SWAP that is a longblock which is far from a swap you still need, mounts, tranny, clutch, harness, and all the dumb little broken shit you run into when you buy stuff off of people that don't care, and stuff that is damaged in shipping.
Originally Posted by 99blackcivicsi
Yea go ahead and read that a little better that isn't a SWAP that is a longblock which is far from a swap you still need, mounts, tranny, clutch, harness, and all the dumb little broken shit you run into when you buy stuff off of people that don't care, and stuff that is damaged in shipping.
here you go a complete swap with everything for $1599 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615
Last edited by SolarEclipse; Apr 20, 2004 at 04:41 AM.
^ that would be all fine and dandy if he had an OBD0 car but it isn't and OBD0 swaps are cheaper than their OBD1 and OBDII conterparts. also that motor looks pretty dirty and nasty, and that is just a motor not the one you will be buying so the others are probably worse.
I was just in the classifieds yesterday and found a d16Z6 with a spun bearing and a good tranny for $150. You could snag the it and use the head and the tranny. I dont think the ECU was included but I will try to find it again and post a link. If the ECU wasnt included you would need a P28, which can be had for anywhere from $50 to $100. Then you can find a used turbo kit or build a custom one (provided you have the knowledge and the facilities). This could cost around a $1000 to $2000 depending on the route you take and what kind of deals you can find. Tune it and run around 6-8 psi. You might also want to the throw in a new clutch (like a CM FX300) and flywheel (a 12-13 lbs one). Those two items will run you probably around $600. I would get wear items the clutch and flywheel used, but that is just my own personal preferance. By this time you should be pushing about 190-200 whp and around 150-160 wtq. I can gaurantee that you will be giving most swapped b-series hatches and just about any integra (Type R included) a run for their money (assuming they arent turbo). Ok so quick money tally here:
Z6 Head and Tranny: $150
P28 ECU: $75
Turbo Kit w/ Fuel Management: $1500
Dyno Tune for 2 hours: $200
Clutch and Flywheel: $600
Exhaust (Cat Back): $400
Spare Oil Pan: $20
Little shit I may have forgotten: $200
TOTAL: $3145
Now initially this may seem high, but remember you dont have to shell out all this money at once. You can do it a little at a time as you can afford to get parts. Also keep in mind that to get anywhere near this kind of performance from a b-series swap you will need to swap in a B18C5, which is about $4500. Of course you could always do a B18B swap ($2200) and then turbo ($1500), but you are still more then $3145, and you need the money all at once. I am not trying to say that D-series owns all. But, they are good little engines and way more cost effective for the same or, often times, better performance then your typical swap. If I had the money then I would build a CRX with a B18C5. However, it is not really as practical as just using a built D-series. Oh yeah if you are hell bent on a swap, find a good Z6 engine, trans, and ecu and just go that route. Should be fairly cheap and there are lots of aftermarket internals to choose from along with your usual pelethora of external bolt-ons. Oh wait, scrap all that. I forgot "DOHC kicks ass"
Z6 Head and Tranny: $150
P28 ECU: $75
Turbo Kit w/ Fuel Management: $1500
Dyno Tune for 2 hours: $200
Clutch and Flywheel: $600
Exhaust (Cat Back): $400
Spare Oil Pan: $20
Little shit I may have forgotten: $200
TOTAL: $3145
Now initially this may seem high, but remember you dont have to shell out all this money at once. You can do it a little at a time as you can afford to get parts. Also keep in mind that to get anywhere near this kind of performance from a b-series swap you will need to swap in a B18C5, which is about $4500. Of course you could always do a B18B swap ($2200) and then turbo ($1500), but you are still more then $3145, and you need the money all at once. I am not trying to say that D-series owns all. But, they are good little engines and way more cost effective for the same or, often times, better performance then your typical swap. If I had the money then I would build a CRX with a B18C5. However, it is not really as practical as just using a built D-series. Oh yeah if you are hell bent on a swap, find a good Z6 engine, trans, and ecu and just go that route. Should be fairly cheap and there are lots of aftermarket internals to choose from along with your usual pelethora of external bolt-ons. Oh wait, scrap all that. I forgot "DOHC kicks ass"





