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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Race B&on
I'm sure these things are fun to drive, but $25,000 is steep for what you get. It seems almost like one of those Porsche 911 models where you're basically paying them extra to remove weight and make the car more fun. I like them a lot, but every time I think about one I start to think about how the Genesis Coupe is cheaper, more powerful (even in terms of power-to-weight according to my calculations), and has a 10-year warranty. Your car looks very nice though, I hope you enjoy it and get some more power out of that engine.
base genesis coupe: 210hp 3294 pounds 15.6hp per pound
base frs: 197hp 2600 pounds 13.1hp per pound

coupe is 700 bucks cheaper at base model

but it all comes down to what the personal buyer would want or else there would be 5 vehicles for everyone to choose.
Old Aug 15, 2012 | 05:31 AM
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New Genesis Coupe base has 271hp
Old Aug 15, 2012 | 05:32 AM
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Coupe is too big:
Old Aug 15, 2012 | 05:34 AM
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"too big" is relative to how much interior space you want. The Genesis has more than enough to be perfectly comfortable for both passengers. (yeah it has 4 seats but who HONESTLY uses the back seats for people?)
Old Aug 15, 2012 | 05:40 AM
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Too big? The Miata is a tiny car that feels cramped when the top is up, and is alarmingly gay to ride with another guy in the passenger seat based on proximity. If the FR-S is almost the same size I would take the Genesis.
Old Aug 15, 2012 | 05:40 AM
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Elbow road has like 3 turns in it.
Old Aug 15, 2012 | 06:10 AM
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Default Re: New Purchase "Toyobaru" Inside

Originally Posted by buugiewuugie
Too big? The Miata is a tiny car that feels cramped when the top is up, and is alarmingly gay to ride with another guy in the passenger seat based on proximity. If the FR-S is almost the same size I would take the Genesis.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackOnBlackGT
Thanks, they run a high 14 stock 0-60 around 6.2 seconds. It's not awful, but it's not spectacular. Then again the car isn't built for straight line speed. From what I've gathered, with some better tires (stock ones are the same that come on a prius) it's running with or better than, cars with 50-70 more hp (msp3, wrx, genesis turbo, etc...) So it feels okay, but where the car really shines is the preciseness of the steering and the overall fun to drive factor ( I drive elbow road every day )

Other cars I've owned:
Supra Turbo
Mr-2 Turbo
2x Lexus IS350
2x SRT-4
4x Legacy GT
Spec-V
3x Civic SI
3x Civic
2x Jeeps (one Cherokee one 5.9 Limited)
Corolla
Integra
Explorer
4 Runner
2011 Sonata
Celica
2x 240sx
TC
M45
Lincoln LS

Might be forgetting a few
I know the car was made for its precision around the bend, but I was wondering if it feels underpowered. Like, you and I both owned IS350s. To me, that car never seemed underpowered unless you were on a road course and TC was left on and that bogging just seemed to kill it (unless of course it was disengaged). It didn't feel over powered either.
Old Aug 15, 2012 | 07:45 AM
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Default Re: New Purchase "Toyobaru" Inside

Originally Posted by Race B&on
I'm sure these things are fun to drive, but $25,000 is steep for what you get. It seems almost like one of those Porsche 911 models where you're basically paying them extra to remove weight and make the car more fun. I like them a lot, but every time I think about one I start to think about how the Genesis Coupe is cheaper, more powerful (even in terms of power-to-weight according to my calculations), and has a 10-year warranty. Your car looks very nice though, I hope you enjoy it and get some more power out of that engine.
Well just to clear the air and trust me I did consider the Genesis coupe, but the Genesis coupe starting off is $130 more. Scion's MSRP include delivery and freight, Hyundais does not. Power to weight is better in the Genesis although it weighs almst 400 more lbs. The Genesis does take the 1/4 and 0-60 by about .5 seconds which is good, but I've just read that it's a disengaged driving experience and other than radio contros on the seering wheel it doesn't have anything more standard than a FR-S.

Recent Comparo and this was against a R-Spec which MSRP is 27,xxx
Scion FR-S:
LOVE IT :
Incredible at-the-limit balance and driftability
Low mass improves performance in every way
Driver-focused interior provides great feel and sense of connection

LEAVE IT:
Transmission lacks precision when shifting
Back seat leg and headroom too cramped for human occupants
17-inch wheels and tires look undersized by today’s standards

Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec


LOVE IT: Impressive power from the 2.0L turbocharged engine
Amenity-rich and spacious interior
Luxury sports coupe styling inside and out

LEAVE IT:
Vague transmission requires slow, deliberate shifting style
Understeer at the limit despite R-Spec tuning
High seating position doesn’t give that sports car feeling

The Leave it is sort of what killed it for me and this isn't the first time I've read or heard reviews like that. Mind you this is the R-spec with the upgraded suspension, tires, and Brembos too.

But, if I buy a "sports car" I want it to feel like a sports car too. Not trying to start a debate, just my side and reasoning . I don't think either would be a bad choice though.

Originally Posted by shawn22
Elbow Road is not even close to being one of the fun roads around here. Its actually barely a step up from a couple off ramps.
Originally Posted by bumada
Elbow road has like 3 turns in it.
Granted, I'm sure there are more fun roads around here, my other option for driving to work is Kempsville to Princess Anne. So to me this is a fun commute to work. Beats sitting in traffic every day on the highway.
Old Aug 15, 2012 | 07:47 AM
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Default Re: New Purchase "Toyobaru" Inside

Originally Posted by elambz
I drove that FR-S when it hit the lot. Good purchase.
Originally Posted by MORE IMPATIENT
nice purchase man, love the color. I saw one of these in person and I like them alot.

Thanks guys!



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