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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Anybody wanna see a ship sink?

Originally Posted by MAD_DOHC
What about the idiots that bought and continued to drive the vehicles in question after they knew the problems? Is that still Ford's fault? I mean, they're still Pinto's out there being driven and plenty of Explorer's.

If they knowingly released deathtraps, so be it. Just about every car on the road is a death trap. Cigarette companies but out cancer sticks by the billions daily with people knowing the affects from them. The people did not have to buy and continue driving the vehicles after all the negative press, thats there own fault.

Now that you've talked about the horrible things Ford has done by releasing 3 different vehicles, why not take a moment to see all the good they have done for the country and economy. You can use Google, I don't need to point it all out.
So are you trying to say that Ford puts out warnings to each consumer saying "hey, you can buy this explorer... but you're probably going to flip and die or burn in a fire. Oh whats that? You don't want to buy this vehicle anymore? SHIT"
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Default Re: Anybody wanna see a ship sink?

If I were to guess I would say that he is pointing out the obvious fact that Ford is not a perfect business. However, neither is any company for that matter. No one is holding a gun to the consumer's head saying buy this. A, the consumer should do some research on the vehicle prior to purchase. If they don't that is their fault. B, if they find in their research that the gas tank is in a less than desireable location on the vehicle, then they should decide whether or not they want to risk that type of potential disaster. I have an old chevy truck with a gas tank that sits behind my seat. If i was to get T-boned hard enough, with the right conditions I would blow up and die. I have mere lap belts and no head restraint. If I was to get in ANY sort of collision above 20 MPH, I would be injured. If I get into an accident however, I am not going to sue Chevrolet for not making my vehicle safer for ME because I knew these risks upon getting the vehicle. I understand a recall is an entirely different story, but then again, if one wants to purchase a vehicle with a serious recall i.e. firestone tire issues, then either take the risk and blam yourself or don't purchase the vehicle. go ford.

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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Default Re: Anybody wanna see a ship sink?

Originally Posted by Paul
This is just kind of biased silliness. I understand that both you and Mad Dohc are big ford fans. You will both defend your brand. I really don't think it's fair to say that so many people are killed in non fords. Because there are so many cars other then fords out there. On the over all picture, I doubt that Fords safety record is much better or worse then any car company that has been around that long. He is not saying that Fords are unsafe vehicles.
The study I posted was in death per million vehicles registered over a 3 year period. So all the vehicles were on even playing field. It's not because of there being a lot more cars on the road that aren't Fords.

He is saying Ford knowingly makes unsafe vehicles, and other manufacturers do not. Which is the completely ignorant. If it was true then the death rates in Fords would be higher than other manufacturers.
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Did the Ford plant in VA Beach close down?
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Anybody wanna see a ship sink?

Originally Posted by BentValve
Did the Ford plant in VA Beach close down?
not yet, but in the next couple months it will be.
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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Default Re: Anybody wanna see a ship sink?

Virginia Beach has a Ford plant? and it's closing?


It's Norfolk!
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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Default Re: Anybody wanna see a ship sink?

Originally Posted by Yell88CRXsi
Virginia Beach has a Ford plant? and it's closing?


It's Norfolk!
Take down the city signs and you'd never know the difference. You know what he meant.
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Slimsta Jimsta
and Nissan fixed my dad's truck free of charge, and provided him with another Titan to drive around in the mean time
They should of.
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Default Re: Anybody wanna see a ship sink?

Originally Posted by tie fitr
He is saying Ford knowingly makes unsafe vehicles, and other manufacturers do not. Which is the completely ignorant. If it was true then the death rates in Fords would be higher than other manufacturers.
How many times does someone need to rephrase something for you? Are you that ignorant and brand biased that you've made a conscience decision to completely ignore everything Dave, Paul, I and others have said?
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Default Re: Anybody wanna see a ship sink?

Originally Posted by Corey
How many times does someone need to rephrase something for you? Are you that ignorant and brand biased that you've made a conscience decision to completely ignore everything Dave, Paul, I and others have said?
As if you three are some kind of authority on the subject. I like Fords because they are easy to make fast. I like other cars not made by Ford also. I own no Ford stock and am not related to anyone that has anything to do with Ford, So I could give two fucks about their corporate decisions. But if you guys actually think they are truly an evil empire and they do anything different than any other big corporaton, then you are on crack!



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