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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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I understand that you are going for a high hp set up but as far as a daily driver what kind of fuel economy would this system have? Just curious.
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 06:02 AM
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A lot of folks claim a 20% increase in fuel economy just installing a home built electrolizer. The efficiency of the electrolizer is the key to that. Now I am wanting to build a car to run on 100% Hydrogen. This will require a very high efficiency elecrolizer just to have it running at the same performance level a normal street car performs at. But I want to go further than that, I need to make 1500 plus horsepower. I could do it simply by installing a tank of liquid Hydrogen on the car and go racing. But to me that wouldn't be any different than running Methanol or Race gas on the car. I want to do something different, I want it fueld by water. Also from a safety standpoint, a Hydrogen explosion scares the crap out of me. On a cool side note, if the fuel were free, who would care about fuel economy?
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 06:27 AM
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I was wondering the size of the tank to get the 300 or so miles out of each tank?
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Using BMW's hydrogen car stats, If you were to use the same engine, or at least the same HP numbers (260HP) you would need 90 gallons of liquid hydrogen to drive 300 miles. Now the funny part is if you were to use water, according to Stan Meyers calculations you would only use 2.2 gallons of water. There is that much hydrogen stored in a different form (water). So you can see the advantage to using water instead of liquid hydrogen storage. Also it's safer storing it as water too!
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Using BMW's hydrogen car stats, If you were to use the same engine, or at least the same HP numbers (260HP) you would need 90 gallons of liquid hydrogen to drive 300 miles. Now the funny part is if you were to use water, according to Stan Meyers calculations you would only use 2.2 gallons of water. There is that much hydrogen stored in a different form (water). So you can see the advantage to using water instead of liquid hydrogen storage. Also it's safer storing it as water too!
now what ive been thinking about is instead of using low voltage in an electrolizer. how about high voltage, say 40,000-50,000 volts to "shock" the water and split the hydrogen and oxygen as it enters the combustion chamber? think msd ignition and a hot coil to get the job done?
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That may work as well CHAHONDA, But from the wispers on the internet I'm hearing more about plasma technology being used than high voltage AC current.
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That may work as well CHAHONDA, But from the wispers on the internet I'm hearing more about plasma technology being used than high voltage AC current.
i actually meant dc current. like the power from a coil pack.
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. I pm'ed you CHAHONDA.

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Default Re: H2o / Hydrogen power

this has already been done. in a shifter cart.

dont u people watch the discovery channel?

there was a whole episode about this.
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this has already been done. in a shifter cart.

dont u people watch the discovery channel?

there was a whole episode about this.

I was trying to find that, all i could find was the Mazda they had done. I thought i had seen seen something doing similar to what the OP was going for. I also thought i remembered Jay Leno having his hands on a hydrogen project.

I am not into hydrogen, as much as waste power, but i think it would be neat to build a hydro power shifter cart.

I did find this wild little fucker. (its hydrogen peroxide powered, but damn!)
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/t...-in-26-seconds

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