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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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Just a quick question I didn't see answered, is this State or Local Police, becuase unless this is a joint effort with different cities, how can VA BCH police arrest you for racing in say, NN ??

Only the state police can do that, unless this was a joint effort between different law efforcement agencies.
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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any cop can pull you anywhere he/she wants.... All they have to do is call a local unit after pulling you and then they pass info and the local officer writes the sitation stating officer "so and so" witnessed " what you got pulled for "
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 1320B4U
I just want to know a couple things. In the Commonwealth of Virginia you are not allowed to do any type of modifications to your vehicle. (From what I understand) Now these cars having aftermarket turbo parts automatically violates the law. So the Law Enforcement Agency is breaking the laws that they uphold so strictly. Do I smell a court case against the Virginia Beach Police Department or what? Please someone correct me if I am wrong... But that is just my .02 cents...
cops don’t have to meet the standards, such as emission tests, why would this be different?
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Id love to see someone with good photography skills post pics of these cop "tuners" if they suspect they are them. It should be pretty obvious who these guys are, cause knowing the Cops around here theyve been watching Fast and the Furious for thier breifings lol.
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NsMoBoy
Id love to see someone with good photography skills post pics of these cop "tuners" if they suspect they are them. It should be pretty obvious who these guys are, cause knowing the Cops around here theyve been watching Fast and the Furious for thier breifings lol.
just keep an eye out for this decal
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmprelude21
my sergeant found out that i had posted this and i was counseled for it. im not in trouble. he doesn't see this as "leaking info" because im just giving out a heads up to everyone. the only specifics that i have given out are the cars and what color they are. i would have gotten in trouble if i leaked the plate numbers and location of the vehicles. im not doing this to "backstab" my fellow officers. there are several officers in my dept that are aware of my actions. this program is a trial and error method, they just want to see if it works. i have a lot of respect for my fellow officers and also the people who are car enthusiasts just doing what they love to do. we aren't after the people who sit in parking lots to admire other peoples work, we are after the drivers that are in the parking lots planning on racing or doing burnouts. it may look like we're over doing it, and yea i guess in some aspects we are. i personally know that the percentage of tuners that are racing illegally is so much smaller than the people just hanging out. there is talk around the dept on finding an abandoned parking lot where people can just meet up and check out rides. but it's definitely a hard task due to the people that fuck it up for everyone by doing shit they're not supposed to do. just like there are people who just enjoy working on their car and not doing dumb shit, there are officers who are against these types of programs soley because they know not all tuners are out there to race. now, granted, there are some cops who are anal about everything and want to completely wipe out this "tuner trend". so it may appear all cops are assholes out to get you. not all of us.

oh and by the way, we are looking into requesting that tint/exhaust/etc be put into a sub-grey area of the laws. it may be a shot in the dark but its worth a try. some of the officers view the exhaust laws unfair because some vehicles come stock that break the allowed decibel level. for instance harley's are ridiculously loud for being stock. just giving a heads up.
I will ask again.................
Originally Posted by Odyssey
How are you on the force if you are 20 (assuming your profile is correct).

You can not become a cop untill the age of 21. You can be 20 and be eligible to apply. 20 and 1/2 at time of Academy admission. Academy is 24 weeks ( just about 6 months). So upon time of graduation, you would be 21.

But it also says that you are in the Military.
Please inform me on how you went about getting on the police force 1 year earlier than anyone is allowed to join.
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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no you can be the age of 20 if your a highschool graduate, same age restriction as the fire departments
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Uhh. NO!
Taken straight from VBGov.com
http://vbgov.com/dept/police/employm...3,8966,00.html
What are the age requirements?

Applicants must be 20 years of age to apply, 21 years of age at the time a recruit completes the basic academy"(Which is exactly what I stated before. So shut the fuck up.)" and is sworn in as a Police Officer. There is no maximum age for participation in the academy. Typically, the age of recruits ranges from the low-20's to the mid-40's. Sworn police officers do face mandatory retirement at age 65.
Again. YOU MUST BE 21 TO ACTUALLY BE A COP (In Virginia Beach anyways; which is where this dude lives). You can be 20 at time of application, which I already stated. I know this because I have been persuing a career in criminal law for some time now.

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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by blaxican25
No, that's not the case.

Cocaine posession over a certain about is a felony punishable up to life in prison, yet police routinely carry large amounts for the purpose of catching those trafficking the drug.

Same with illegal guns, soliciation, etc. There are many cases where the police possess or offer illegal things in order to catch those who are breaking the law.
Couldn't you argue that since safety is one of the primary reasons these modifications are illegal, the impounded cars are thus not safe to be driven on the road? I remember hearing a police officer's testimony on a street-racing documentary a long time ago that commented that they were concerned about the public's (as well as the driver's) safety simply because no one knows the quality of the modification job. It's one thing to use cocaine to lure criminals in, but a police officer or anyone in general driving a car deemed "unsafe on public highways" by the laws of the state seems illegal to me.

This issue ^ has been bothering me for a long time now. Your explanation is actually the best response I've received yet, but I still don't see it justifying the legal use of an unsafe vehicle just because one is a police officer. What makes driving this vehicle significantly and legally safer to the public and the driver when a police officer is behind the wheel? One could argue their driving training, but what about all those that consistently take professional driving courses? Their training has no bearing.



Just something to ponder about... One of these days I want to try and find time to sit down with an officer just to clarify and discuss all of these laws.
Old Apr 28, 2006 | 02:10 AM
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when the mods are done by a ace certified master technician in the gov't garage. it is deemed safe?



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