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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 03:10 AM
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Oh, and for clarification, I have always had remarkable respect for Ford trucks...but mainly the 80s-early 90s generation, with the 300-6. There will never be another engine ever made that beats the reliability of the 300-6, Hondas can fuck themselves silly for all I care....it's true.

But I really really hate what I constantly here from consumers, and I'm talking abotu hardcore Ford guys, about the NEWEST line of trucks...these people have never bought anythign but Ford, but have grudginly elected to buy a Chevy or even (*shudder*) DODGE becuase they are so disppointed and aggravated with the lack of interest the dealerships have to fixing the problesm that continue to arise in the first two years of owning the truck.
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 05:22 AM
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OMG...look at all the dangerous cars.

It must be a conspiracy

http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/08/04/...sts/index.html
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tie fitr
Maybe Fords biggest fault is knowing too much about their own vehicles. I mean How come people are killed more often in so many other manufacturers vehicles then Fords. Are the other manufacturers just not testing their vehicles to the extent that Ford does, because they don't want to know how dangerous they are? Maybe they are better at hiding theier documentation about problems.
You must want to ban sleeping because more deaths happen during sleep.
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by s.morgan
You must want to ban sleeping because more deaths happen during sleep.
I think we ought to ban breathing, because if you breathe you'll eventually die.

It's been proven
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by s.morgan
You must want to ban sleeping because more deaths happen during sleep.
I think your directing that at the wrong person. I'm not the one that thinks Ford knowingly build dangerous cars and others do not.
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tie fitr
I'm not the one that thinks Ford knowingly build dangerous cars and others do not.
I never said others do not. My problem is the way Ford went about it. I'm SURE you must know this by now but you seem to be playing dumb.

Or maybe you're not playing?

Old Aug 7, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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I don't think you even knolw what your problem with Ford is anymore. Did you not read the liunk I posted about Toyota? There are hundreds more out there from all the manufacturers as well.

Here's a small quote in case you didn't feel like reading it before:

The recall, announced Monday, is meant to make Tundras comply with a set of safety regulations. The rules say that vehicles built after 2002 must have a child-seat anchor system known as LATCH in the front seat if they also have a front-seat airbag shut-off switch.
The Tundras in question were built with an airbag shut-off switch but not the LATCH system.
The solution? Spend lots of money and inconvenience customers...to remove the airbag shut-off switch.
The move not only doesn't enhance the safety of these vehicles, it actually makes the vehicles unsafe for small children riding in the front seat.
Those shut-off switches exist because airbags can injure and even kill small children even in otherwise minor crashes.

But I suppose that's somehow better business practice then what Ford has done.
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tie fitr
But I suppose that's somehow better business practice then what Ford has done.
We aren't really arguing about business practices. There's really no arguing about that. Ford is losing hundreds of millions every quarter and Toyota is not.

But morally (where my argument is) I think what Toyota did is nowhere near as low as what Ford did. I'd reiterate my argument yet again, but you'd just go ahead and not comprehend it again.
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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Your right, Toyota making their vehicle more dangerous for children, instead of spending a little extra money to make them safe, is not very bad. But I guess them knowingly putting out a dangerous vehicle is not what your talking about. And I'm also sure they make sure the customer knows about this problem during the sales pitch.
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dave22
We aren't really arguing about business practices. There's really no arguing about that. Ford is losing hundreds of millions every quarter and Toyota is not.

But morally (where my argument is) I think what Toyota did is nowhere near as low as what Ford did. I'd reiterate my argument yet again, but you'd just go ahead and not comprehend it again.
Ford isn't losing millions of dollars because they fail, in your eyes, to build a good product. They're losing millions of dollars because of our health care system and Unions. Despite your hatred for the company, you should know this Dave...



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