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Bags do suck, they go against everything I am for when it comes to having a well-setup street car: handling, stiffness, rate-adjustable, etc. The only car i'll own that'll have bags is a Range Rover, Cayenne Turbo, E55 or that sort - something with a factory setup. The E55 handled very well with air suspension, but doesn't even compare to the feel of a car on coilovers.
Bags do suck, they go against everything I am for when it comes to having a well-setup street car: handling, stiffness, rate-adjustable, etc. The only car i'll own that'll have bags is a Range Rover, Cayenne Turbo, E55 or that sort - something with a factory setup. The E55 handled very well with air suspension, but doesn't even compare to the feel of a car on coilovers.
I'll never argue that coilovers are the best suspension type buuuuuuuuuuut A.R.T. is doin work w/ their shit on track cars... Refer to the off topic thread in case you missed Chris and I's conversation on bags vs coilovers...
Originally Posted by Nism0 B14
srsly bro, it is getting annoying. you're not from western, so gtfo & troll somewhere else.
I'll never argue that coilovers are the best suspension type buuuuuuuuuuut A.R.T. is doin work w/ their shit on track cars... Refer to the off topic thread in case you missed Chris and I's conversation on bags vs coilovers...
Until you see Air on dedicated performance cars as a performance feature (rather than luxury feature) Coilovers or properly matched springs/shocks will ALWAYS be better and more predictible.
They dont use is not because the technoligy isnt there, but because you can get more performance out of coils/shocks.
Im still wanting to see how well that CL-S will run down a mountian. Ill bet my little car can out run it. :P
Until you see Air on dedicated performance cars as a performance feature (rather than luxury feature) Coilovers or properly matched springs/shocks will ALWAYS be better and more predictible.
They dont use is not because the technoligy isnt there, but because you can get more performance out of coils/shocks.
Im still wanting to see how well that CL-S will run down a mountian. Ill bet my little car can out run it. :P
I won't argue that fact but air ride is on its way up in the performance end of things... If Porsche is using it on factory performance cars, thats saying something...
As for the CL-S, I'd like to see that too... I'll turn the boost down on my jank for him...
I won't argue that fact but air ride is on its way up in the performance end of things... If Porsche is using it on factory performance cars, thats saying something...
As for the CL-S, I'd like to see that too... I'll turn the boost down on my jank for him...
Um Doug, The Cayenne Turbo isnt a car. and its far from teh performance of say a GT2 or even just a run of the mill Cayman.
They use these things as a luxury to adjust ride height not for performance features. Aftermarket companies do the same thing as add ons to the 996/997 cars the Audi R8 and Even Mercedes (and I think some Ferraris) has it stock to allow the driver to raise the car up when they encounter a speed bump or driveway. But as performance, I havent seen a car yet that relys from the factory for performance suspension delivered by air.