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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by reuter
well shit...
LOL

well shit... why do you say that.?
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat Nick
Actually the T56 is also used in Vipers, and 03-04 Cobras.
anyone know if there were any changes made to the t56 when it became a tremec product rather than a bw? or did bw become tremec?
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Originally Posted by XCELR8
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well shit... why do you say that.?
because i was planning on spending the next year or two saying that the z06 is the best dollar for performance product available in the US
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by XCELR8
anyways, back on topic. Who is going to be top dog with all these very powerful cars coming out?

Ford GT?
Mustang Shelby Cobra GT500?
C6 Z06?
Viper RT10?

I can't think of any imports for the price range that compete, otherwise I would have listed them.
Ford GT - overpriced might as well put against S7's and Ferrari's
GT500 - Will come out with "market adjustment" to make the total price near 65-70k, which is a ripoff for any Mustang, once it settles where it should, near $40k, then it won't be beat for the $.
C6 ZO6 - These cost quite a bit more from what I've heard, near $70k which I believe might hurt the sales but I think this will probably be quicker than the Shelby and RT-10
Viper RT-10 - Beautiful car, and my favorite out of all of them, but they aren't real popular now, so I doubt it will change.

My vote for $ for $ will be the ZO6, until the Ford drops the prices. Although I'm not a big fan of the C6, looks like a chode on wheels, it's short and fat.
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Originally Posted by reuter
anyone know if there were any changes made to the t56 when it became a tremec product rather than a bw? or did bw become tremec?
BW became Tremec. Other than the different numbers and internal parts, not much change.
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by reuter
anyone know if there were any changes made to the t56 when it became a tremec product rather than a bw? or did bw become tremec?
I'm pretty sure they're the same transmission (except for three different ratios). The Viper has one ratio, the Z06 has another, and the '03-'04 Cobras, F-bodies and C5 'vette have the last kind. Borg-Warner=Tremec. Kinda like AMC and Dodge.

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because i was planning on spending the next year or two saying that the z06 is the best dollar for performance product available in the US
The new Z06 is going to be an incredible value, no doubt. But the question is, which car is the best value. Hence the creation of this thread.
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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Alright, I retract my statement about Ford. If you're not an enthusiast, it's hard to understand the love for the older RWD cars. But it seems that Ford has helped to "modernize" Volvos since their takeover. I think it's funny that the platform for the new S40 is also used in the Focus and Mazda 3.
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Here is one issue I have with the Ford thing though:



This is the S80 that's expected to come out. Doesn't look cool to me, looks like a fucking pontiac (well at least in the "camo").

I hope future Volvos don't follow this trend.

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Shelby cobra gets my vote. MSRP for cobra hair under 40k. Z06 MSRP over 70k. Pulley and and tune will easily net you 600+ on the cobra. It already has a solid rear axle twin-screw, and a 5.4 in it. I am fast car buff and have owned both a mean stang and am building a nice f-body, but those shelby running around are going to be terror, because they are so affordable. The question will be what dealer markups will be. I know both GM and Ford like to hike them at least 5k when a new model comes out.



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