jrsc or turbo
#12
Re: jrsc or turbo
Go NA w/ some nitrous. I'm not talking about a intake and a few bolt ons, I'm talking about high compression w head work,cams,valvetrain, ect. But if you have your heart set on a turbo setup i would check out spoolinperformance.com ( I think that's the correct site, If not just google it.)
#14
Re: jrsc or turbo
are you planning on doing anything with the bottom end? if so take it to a good machine shop and have them assemble it. Make sure you tell them you plan on spraying the motor w/ whatever shot you want ( Nothing to crazy, i say a 100 shot would do fine.) From there they will get everything together so you wont have that problem. Here is another website you might want to play around on www.zealautowerks.com. here you can mess around with compression ratios by using differnt parts for your build. Be sure you have a good tuner as well.
#17
Re: jrsc or turbo
If you want safe, leave the engine stock. No matter what you do, you're running the risk of damaging something. That's just assumed risk though, and that's what you have to set aside to do anything fun. That being said, your safety and reliability hinges on the thoroughness of both the build and the tuning. Nothing rocket science about that.
If you just want something for the track, nitrous is fun. And cheap. But you'll have to have all the same supporting mods, including engine management and fueling, to be able to support anything but modest power output. Like anything else, you can do a nitrous setup cheap or you can do it safe. You'll need to build and tune the engine to whatever level of power you want to use, even if you only use it a few times a year at the track.
Supercharging is safe, like NA_JDM said. You pay for safe with low power output though, and the dollar per horsepower isn't that great. It's fairly easy bolt on stuff though, and you'll still need supporting mods for the extra power unless you do low boost (and then why bother?)... You basically end up with an engine that feels like it's bigger than it is, which can be nice but often isn't super exciting.
A turbo is usually my choice for money, scalability, and power on demand. Keep your foot out of it, and you don't really have any less fuel economy. I LOVE small turbos, they respond really fast from really low RPM if you get a properly sized ball bearing unit. Tons of people get a turbo that's too big and then end up with a slow responding, high RPM lightswitch. Don't leave any more headroom for power output than necessary and you'll be much happier. If you get too big of a turbo because you might want more power in the furture, you immediately have compromises in the present.
It really depends on your personal opinion though. Do you want power all the time, only when you need it, on the track, on the street, etc... It's all about money and time and how much of each you're willing to spend to get the perfect setup for your needs. you may need a lot, or may only need a little.
No matter what you do, you're going to put increased wear and tear on the engine if the power output is anything more that stock. Whether that's all the time with a supercharger, much of the time with a turbo, or once in a blue moon with nitrous, extra stress is extra stress and is going to shorten the working life between rebuilds.
If you just want something for the track, nitrous is fun. And cheap. But you'll have to have all the same supporting mods, including engine management and fueling, to be able to support anything but modest power output. Like anything else, you can do a nitrous setup cheap or you can do it safe. You'll need to build and tune the engine to whatever level of power you want to use, even if you only use it a few times a year at the track.
Supercharging is safe, like NA_JDM said. You pay for safe with low power output though, and the dollar per horsepower isn't that great. It's fairly easy bolt on stuff though, and you'll still need supporting mods for the extra power unless you do low boost (and then why bother?)... You basically end up with an engine that feels like it's bigger than it is, which can be nice but often isn't super exciting.
A turbo is usually my choice for money, scalability, and power on demand. Keep your foot out of it, and you don't really have any less fuel economy. I LOVE small turbos, they respond really fast from really low RPM if you get a properly sized ball bearing unit. Tons of people get a turbo that's too big and then end up with a slow responding, high RPM lightswitch. Don't leave any more headroom for power output than necessary and you'll be much happier. If you get too big of a turbo because you might want more power in the furture, you immediately have compromises in the present.
It really depends on your personal opinion though. Do you want power all the time, only when you need it, on the track, on the street, etc... It's all about money and time and how much of each you're willing to spend to get the perfect setup for your needs. you may need a lot, or may only need a little.
No matter what you do, you're going to put increased wear and tear on the engine if the power output is anything more that stock. Whether that's all the time with a supercharger, much of the time with a turbo, or once in a blue moon with nitrous, extra stress is extra stress and is going to shorten the working life between rebuilds.
Last edited by Fabrik8; 04-15-2009 at 06:47 PM.
#18
Re: jrsc or turbo
Basically, if you have the engine built to handle the power of the supercharger with a nitrous shot, and it's tuned to properly run like that, you're fine.
#19
Re: jrsc or turbo
ok well right now I have 1300 saved up for my build and I am looking to buy a super charger from E honda or should I build then boost am new to this so really want to base my decision on what you guys say and where is the best place to buy internals
#20
Re: jrsc or turbo
Internals, like anything else, will depend on your target power and your budget. There are a lot of brands out there.
Depending on the supercharger you get, you may not need to do a beefy internal upgrade. Many of them are low enough boost that the stock internals and compression ratio will work fine.
Depending on the supercharger you get, you may not need to do a beefy internal upgrade. Many of them are low enough boost that the stock internals and compression ratio will work fine.