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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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Default Re: No more "WTB Vehicle" Threads in "Vehicle For sale" forum

What it comes down to is that if you're making WTB threads on big ticket items like a car you're just lazy and don't want to search (on drag or elsewhere).

I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but we're the ones that have had to deal with the junk postings. So until we get a handle on the current situation adding more to the plate (right now) is out of the question. Implementing it at a later date? Anything is possible.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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i think everything you say that puts down a FS car thread also could be applied to a FS car thread.

If you feel that having a WTB Vehicle forum or allowing WTB Vehicle threads would be putting too much on the plate of the mods, why not add one single WTB Vehicle Thread with rules and info required. If someone selling a vehicle who finds a post in that thread, they PM, email, or call the person who made the post. . This could be used as a trial for the this type of threads or forum. It would appease some, make others happy, and benefit both buyers and sellers.
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Default Re: No more "WTB Vehicle" Threads in "Vehicle For sale" forum

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Sellers? Why them?
They are the only ones we can verify as being serious therefore making their threads viable.

Originally Posted by sucka306
If this should be the last place people look to buy a car, why do we have a for sale forum?
That question makes no sense because any answer to it you can turn it around and use the same thing for an arguement for a WTB. Just because people should go to ebay/autotrader/dealership/newspaper first does not mean they can't come here too.

Originally Posted by sucka306
A car not listed on here may not mean dick to you, BUT what about the person looking for a car and one not listed on dragva suits him perfectly? Why would you not want to help someone out?
Are you really asking us to take into consideration cars that aren't listed on this website? Why would you think that we want to put any of our time into something that doesn't deal with this website?

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You cannot stereotype people by a thread they make.
Maybe you can't/don't/won't. But I can, do and will. Go ahead and site some references to prove me wrong.

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I dont see a problem with allowing them in a controlled environment with rules that are strictly enforced like the other forums in the classified section.
The idea isn't bad. I'm just saying the same thing I've been saying the whole time. I know what it would turn into. I asked you in the previous post, go read all the WTB threads and then show me why you think this is incorrect.
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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That question makes no sense because any answer to it you can turn it around and use the same thing for an arguement for a WTB. Just because people should go to ebay/autotrader/dealership/newspaper first does not mean they can't come here too.
that reply was only used to show flaw in your arguement
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Are you really asking us to take into consideration cars that aren't listed on this website? Why would you think that we want to put any of our time into something that doesn't deal with this website?
so you are saying that you have never given someone a heads upon a car not listed on drag? Maybe one you saw on the corner, dealership, buddy's car, etc? i think you are missing the point here. its not investing time into anything, its leaving the opportunity for someone to help someone else out.

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Maybe you can't/don't/won't. But I can, do and will. Go ahead and site some references to prove me wrong.
http://www.dragva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105782
http://www.dragva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106857
http://www.dragva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103095
And i will note 2 things. 1-I am sure there is more that could be found at this point. 2-Before the last reboot of the whole system, im sure i could find instances where many (if not all) of the moderators have posted WTB vehicle threads at some point of their life.

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The idea isn't bad. I'm just saying the same thing I've been saying the whole time. I know what it would turn into. I asked you in the previous post, go read all the WTB threads and then show me why you think this is incorrect.
I think it was a combination of lack or rules and lack of moderation in the past. I have seen mahy wtb threads go to shit. i have also seen some come out with a car sold. i havent looked through them all.
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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ok, im gonna add my .02 also. what if someone has wrecked a car, and has had it sitting in their yard/garage for a while and just didnt do anything with it or planned to fix it then gave up? maybe someone is looking for a project car that they can rebuild to their own preference. some people look for a car w/ certain stuff on it or in it, and also your 4letter word requirement doesnt allow you to search DEL SOL, only DELSOL together, when most people post it as 2 separate words. also some people may not be needing to sell their car or wanting to sell it, but most people i know say "everything is for sale for the right price", which if someone posts they want to buy a certain car then they may sell it if the person says they are willing to spend the money. and also, as Francisco said, friends car, neighbors car, whatever, why not help someone out so they will stop posting it up or posting in peoples threads lowballing them? as i said, just my .02.
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ok, im gonna add my .02 also. what if someone has wrecked a car, and has had it sitting in their yard/garage for a while and just didnt do anything with it or planned to fix it then gave up? maybe someone is looking for a project car that they can rebuild to their own preference. some people look for a car w/ certain stuff on it or in it
Then they should list it in the forum. We can't do all the work for everyone. All the examples so far are full of what-ifs and maybes.
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also your 4letter word requirement doesnt allow you to search DEL SOL, only DELSOL together, when most people post it as 2 separate words.
We used to have a thread so that people could make suggests to exempt words <4 that are searchable. I just can't seem to find it ATM, but I'll make another thread if I can't find the old one.
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also some people may not be needing to sell their car or wanting to sell it, but most people i know say "everything is for sale for the right price"
Well that's EXACTLY what we don't want. Either you're selling your car or your not.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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Default Re: No more "WTB Vehicle" Threads in "Vehicle For sale" forum

what is the big deal about having a wtb sticky? peopel jsut post what they want and the peopple that are really serious about selling their cars, will browse the sticky and PM the person looking for the car...?

that way its just one thread and not taking up so much space on the boards...i mean..?

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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sucka306
that reply was only used to show flaw in your arguement
It does make sense because YOU are the one asking for us to cater to buyers. I never said we cater to sellers, I said they are the ones whom we can determine if they are serious or not. The way we have it setup now just cleans out the garbage and makes things simpler for both sides. Serious sellers get more traffic and serious buyers get all the information up front.

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so you are saying that you have never given someone a heads upon a car not listed on drag? Maybe one you saw on the corner, dealership, buddy's car, etc? i think you are missing the point here. its not investing time into anything, its leaving the opportunity for someone to help someone else out.
You keep saying the same thing and I keep saying the same thing back. Yes I agree that those threads could potentially be helpful, but once again, all the negatives I have already listed make those kinds of thread more trouble than the slim chance that something actually materializes that wouldn't have otherwise. Did you get that last part? Something comes out of a wtb thread that wouldn't have otherwise. That's the whole point, the threads are useless because the people who wtb could just as easily find things on their own if they weren't lazy.

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http://www.dragva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105782
http://www.dragva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106857
http://www.dragva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103095
And i will note 2 things. 1-I am sure there is more that could be found at this point. 2-Before the last reboot of the whole system, im sure i could find instances where many (if not all) of the moderators have posted WTB vehicle threads at some point of their life.
You can also note that those threads are exactly what I said. A bunch of garbage spam that serves no purpose. The people who posted those could just have easily looked for the listed ads themself AND nothing materialized out of them.
So what if a moderator posted a wtb thread? That doesn't mean the thread wasn't useless and they weren't being lazy. I don't even know what you're trying to say with that. Please tell me what on earth does a moderator posting a wtb thread in the past have to do with this?

If you look back at what I originally said before you tried twisting it around:

Originally Posted by Heat
the type of users these kinds of posts attract are the type of people whom we do not want using the site which is why these rules were put into effect in the first place.
Originally Posted by sucka306
I think it was a combination of lack or rules and lack of moderation in the past. I have seen mahy wtb threads go to shit. i have also seen some come out with a car sold. i havent looked through them all.
Well gee the examples you gave sure didn't help your cause. None of them did anything except waste space.
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sucka, sadly enough this is a "free" forum, so basicly us being allowed to log on is a prevlige considering we pay notthing, so if they make a rule we do not like we really have ground to stand on, as its a free forum we choose to log on, i agree with you, alot of pro's for us, but i can deffinitly see the con's for the mods they hear bitching either way, just this way its only about one thing.
Old Oct 23, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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Default Re: No more "WTB Vehicle" Threads in "Vehicle For sale" forum

Would it be wrong to post a WTB thread in the regional forums considering I'd rather buy locally and people are consistently posting threads asking for paint jobs, mechanical work, etc? (I read all of the above, and agree with filtering out the garbage threads, but in some cases like mine, chances are somebody knows somebody who is selling a swapped CRX which I am interested purchasing, so I also agree with stickying a WTB thread.) There are my two pennies.



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