This is the point i was making.

My first season, I kept that mindset that I will go down, and I did everything I could to make sure I didn't, and thus i did not go down my first season.

Second season I didnt have "going down" on my mind, and low and behold it happened. You're right though, it doesnt happen to everyone, and that's usually because it hasn't happened yet, or that person stopped riding before it could happen.

I don't know one person who hasn't gone down, or who will flat out admit that they WILL NOT go down.

Its better to have the mindset that it will happen, thus you will try everything you can to keep from being that statistic. If you don't agree with that, I feel bad for you.

AND 2 more things 1. for a first bike, most 600cc sportsbikes are too much for a beginner rider, which he said he was. I don't doubt his ability, but it was more of a purchase wise reason that I said he would probably drop it. I'd hate to drop down anything that beautiful. 2. "Going down" is the term I used, but included in that is dropping the bike. I cant tell you how many times I've seen a noob brake while tryin to do a u-turn or a turn of some kind and simply drop their bike.

 

I was thinking the exact same thing, also the exhaust screams honda as well.

 

Either you have been down or you are going down. It's just that simple. I hope that as a noob rider you don't think that you are to cool to wear protective gear, it will help save some of your a##. I always wear mine even when it's 1000 degrees outside. When you are bouncing and sliding across the pavement it is no fun. Buy a fairly decent jacket and a very good helmet. To answer your question the 675 by all the reviews is supposed to be one heck of a bike. I am 6'1 235lb's and I sat on one and it is just as uncomfortable as the rest. It is just a matter of how uncomfortable you want to be because all crotch rockets are super aggressive in there stances. As a first bike I would say no. It is really expensive to "possibly drop" for a first timer. Buy a used Japanese bike. They are easier to repair because the parts are everywhere from other "dropped" bikes.

 

Pig
JK, arent you suposed to be on a honeymoon or something?

 

i sure wouldnt suggest ANY new bike for a first time rider either. i have and still would suggest a used honda CBR f4i for a first time bike 4-5K can get you one in good shape and they are easy to modify when it feels 'slow'

 

For those of you doubting the performance of the Triumphs, the bikes have improved exponentially over the past few years. I wouldn't sleep on the 675. It's true that the 600TT and the Daytona 600 fell short of the japanese bikes in performance comparisons - and some of the earlier bikes had minor gremlins, but this is a whole new bike. Triumph recognized the fact that they couldn't build a better inline 4 than the japanese and be competitive in the same price bracket. So they went back to what they know best - triples. The 675 looks similar to the Daytona 600 and 650 of the past few years, but it's a completely different bike. The plastic is similar, the chassis and components all rethought and/or redesigned, and the motor is a 100% fresh design.

You can nitpick all you want. You can make obvious statements about Triumph needing 675cc to compete with a japanese 600. You'd be right. The Daytona 675 wasn't built to homologize (sp?!) the model for AMA competition - which is why the japanese companies build their repli-racer models to the specs they do. Triumph has no intention of a factory AMA racing effort, so why were they limiting themselves before? Kawasaki also realized they could make a far better streetbike by stepping outside the rules - that's where the 636 came from.

Like I said before, I haven't had an opportunity to ride a 675 yet, but if the bike is as good in real life as it is on paper - and lives up to the hype - it's going to be a bad mofo. I've ridden some of the other new Triumph models and have been impressed. In fact, if I had the means to buy a brand new bike, it would probably be a Speed Triple.

That's not to say I don't appreciate the simplicity and, like Del said, the fact that parts and service is so readily available for the japanese fours. But I do think it's cool that Triumph stepped up and designed a sport bike on a clean sheet of paper with complete disregard for what the 'standard formula' is.

And I've got to add one last bit. Why is there always somebody waiting to tell the new guy he's going to fall? The noob has enough to worry about. Know the risks. Know there's always the possibility of being hurt. But don't wait for it. I've been riding on the street for ten years and have never hit the pavement. I'm not ignorant or naive enough to think I never will, but if every time I got on the bike I was wondering if this would be the time I fell I'd be a neurotic bitch by now. Now, if I just jinxed myself and go down tomorrow I'll buy everyone on this thread a beer!

Ok, I obviously need to go to bed now. Rant over...

 

Im with this guy very well said, start to finish.

 

Sweet, thanks for all the input guys.

 

My dream bike, but not a first bike imo.. I don't see how you can compare this to a 600tt lol, this bike is top of the line stuff right here.. nothin like a triple.

A decent first bike if you HAVE to buy new would be the new ninja 650r.. usable powerband, new rider friendly ergo's, and its got the "racer boy" look you are apparently going for...

 

but it is a triple, the TT was a four cylinder... and i only sort of compared it to a TT because thats the only triumph i've ridden and it sucked