Originally Posted by Swampass

sitting at my desk, reinacting what you said....



When you are actually steering the bike with the front wheel vs. the lean.

Originally Posted by skr00zloose

negative, the type of handlebars has NOTHING to do with it. on ANY two wheeled vehicle, even a bicycle, you HAVE to countersteer in order to initiate a turn, or to turn in harder. that's just physics. you ALWAYS do it, you may just not notice it as much in certain situations.

push left-go left, push right-go right

the faster you go, the more you'll have to do it, the more you'll notice it.

at parking lot speeds, you are just going so slow that you wouldn't notice it, since that whole principal is about getting the bike to lean, which you don't generally do much of in a parking lot.

Originally Posted by djgrom

I am gonna have to disagree with you steve. I have ridden BMX for over 8 years now and raced mountain bikes for just as long. Also if you need more certification i was a bicycle mechanic for 5 years. Anyways on a regular bicycle you steer by turning left right etcetera not counter steering UNLESS you are racing a real road bike at speed. if you counter steered on a bicycle while it is perfectly acceptable to do you would be in danger of washing your front wheel out.

Originally Posted by skr00zloose

please re-read my post, i said the whole thing is based on leaning to turn, at very slow speeds, you're not leaning, so you don't countersteer. you HAVE to countersteer to initiate a lean. in a left turn, you have to turn the bars to the right to get the bike to "fall" to the left, and vise versa.