The Barst (Steve) and other EVO owners
unfortunately it's easy to get all the info.. every track i've been to takes down your name, addy, and car make and model when you go through tech. so all the dealer has to do is talk to the track and ask when johnny tran ran his car and the track can say "johnny tran ran his S2000 at this date and this time" because it's all in their computer
There is a law in the state of VA that requires a dealership to show proof that a "modification" caused the problem with the vehicle. Go to www.machv.com They list the law there by its name and have it in its entirety.
If you are worried about the warranty, your best bet for non-cosmetic mods is to do only that which is easily reversible...ie air intake, etc. When you have to bring the car in, revert to stock.
I bought my EVO in Va. Beach. I don't think these guys are spying out in Dinwiddie or anything.
If you are worried about the warranty, your best bet for non-cosmetic mods is to do only that which is easily reversible...ie air intake, etc. When you have to bring the car in, revert to stock.
I bought my EVO in Va. Beach. I don't think these guys are spying out in Dinwiddie or anything.
Originally posted by Frank
If you are worried about the warranty, your best bet for non-cosmetic mods is to do only that which is easily reversible...ie air intake, etc. When you have to bring the car in, revert to stock.
If you are worried about the warranty, your best bet for non-cosmetic mods is to do only that which is easily reversible...ie air intake, etc. When you have to bring the car in, revert to stock.
Didn't I already say that?
If a dealership wanted to deny a particular claim because of a modification then yea, they will have to prove that it directly caused the malfunction or contributed to its failure. However that law does not apply if the vehicale has been used in competition. Do you relaly think a dealership should pay for every part that breaks if you raced a Kia down the 1/4mile 400,000 times? (100k mile warranty) Of course not. Now how is that different if it were raced every weekend? Or even once? It's not. The point is competition is hard on the car and more shit will break sooner. I still don't see how the dealer is wrong here. If you pay you gotta play - grow up and take some responsability for your actions.
And no, just because the car is racing in a commercial doesn't mean you have the right to abuse it like that and expect the warranty to cover shit that breaks.
Hell, as I understand it it even tells you in the owner's manual that if you race Mitsu will not pay for shit that breaks.
SilvEclips point 2 and 3, it was probably someone who works at the dealership that was surfing the forums in their spare time who came across the post and recognized the car when it came in. OK, you know that Mitsu will void your warranty when you race, then you post pictures of your car doing -just that- online for everyone to see? That qualifies as a dumbass in my book.
Point 4, if the policy is race and be voided then they wouldn't even have to look at the problem or spend their mechanic's time to try to figure it out. They know you raced, they aren't going to pay, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
And no, just because the car is racing in a commercial doesn't mean you have the right to abuse it like that and expect the warranty to cover shit that breaks.
Hell, as I understand it it even tells you in the owner's manual that if you race Mitsu will not pay for shit that breaks.SilvEclips point 2 and 3, it was probably someone who works at the dealership that was surfing the forums in their spare time who came across the post and recognized the car when it came in. OK, you know that Mitsu will void your warranty when you race, then you post pictures of your car doing -just that- online for everyone to see? That qualifies as a dumbass in my book.
Point 4, if the policy is race and be voided then they wouldn't even have to look at the problem or spend their mechanic's time to try to figure it out. They know you raced, they aren't going to pay, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Originally posted by vmspionage
If a dealership wanted to deny a particular claim because of a modification then yea, they will have to prove that it directly caused the malfunction or contributed to its failure. However that law does not apply if the vehicale has been used in competition. Do you relaly think a dealership should pay for every part that breaks if you raced a Kia down the 1/4mile 400,000 times? (100k mile warranty) Of course not. Now how is that different if it were raced every weekend? Or even once? It's not. The point is competition is hard on the car and more shit will break sooner. I still don't see how the dealer is wrong here. If you pay you gotta play - grow up and take some responsability for your actions.
And no, just because the car is racing in a commercial doesn't mean you have the right to abuse it like that and expect the warranty to cover shit that breaks.
Hell, as I understand it it even tells you in the owner's manual that if you race Mitsu will not pay for shit that breaks.
SilvEclips point 2 and 3, it was probably someone who works at the dealership that was surfing the forums in their spare time who came across the post and recognized the car when it came in. OK, you know that Mitsu will void your warranty when you race, then you post pictures of your car doing -just that- online for everyone to see? That qualifies as a dumbass in my book.
Point 4, if the policy is race and be voided then they wouldn't even have to look at the problem or spend their mechanic's time to try to figure it out. They know you raced, they aren't going to pay, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
If a dealership wanted to deny a particular claim because of a modification then yea, they will have to prove that it directly caused the malfunction or contributed to its failure. However that law does not apply if the vehicale has been used in competition. Do you relaly think a dealership should pay for every part that breaks if you raced a Kia down the 1/4mile 400,000 times? (100k mile warranty) Of course not. Now how is that different if it were raced every weekend? Or even once? It's not. The point is competition is hard on the car and more shit will break sooner. I still don't see how the dealer is wrong here. If you pay you gotta play - grow up and take some responsability for your actions.
And no, just because the car is racing in a commercial doesn't mean you have the right to abuse it like that and expect the warranty to cover shit that breaks.
Hell, as I understand it it even tells you in the owner's manual that if you race Mitsu will not pay for shit that breaks.SilvEclips point 2 and 3, it was probably someone who works at the dealership that was surfing the forums in their spare time who came across the post and recognized the car when it came in. OK, you know that Mitsu will void your warranty when you race, then you post pictures of your car doing -just that- online for everyone to see? That qualifies as a dumbass in my book.
Point 4, if the policy is race and be voided then they wouldn't even have to look at the problem or spend their mechanic's time to try to figure it out. They know you raced, they aren't going to pay, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Originally posted by HighPSI TSi Guy
you would actually only have to race it 200,000 times at a 1/4 mile strip to void a 100,000 mile warranty
you would actually only have to race it 200,000 times at a 1/4 mile strip to void a 100,000 mile warranty

.25 * 200,000 = 50,000
.25 * 400,000 = 100,000
Originally posted by vmspionage
yea I thought 'wtf?' too before I thought about it - it's only 200,000 times because you have to drive a 1/4mi back to the start
yea I thought 'wtf?' too before I thought about it - it's only 200,000 times because you have to drive a 1/4mi back to the start
That's why I never run at the track. Never mod my car either. I do change my own oil though and buy my filter from mitsu and keep the reciept.
That is also why you see signatures like this:
Disclaimer: All Mitsubishi corporate employees, Mitsubishi dealerships, Mitsubishi service personnel or employees, family, friends, or acquaintances thereof: This in no way constitutes an admission or acknowledgement of tampering, modification, usage, or alteration of any vehicle in my posession or component thereof in such a fashion as to void, cancel, deny or otherwise refuse service on any service contracts, warrantees, or recall notices covering said vehicles. This and other posts submitted on this, or any Internet forum, under the screenname The Barst simply represent an attempt to gain acceptance from a peer group espousing cars of a high performance nature - especially those that have been altered to improve, enhance, or otherwise modify the automobile's natural characteristics. Any statements, claims, or graphical representations made that would constitute a violation of any contractual agreement are to be considered fictitious and not to be accepted in any court of law, or similar environment mediated for the purpose of dispute resolution.
That is also why you see signatures like this:
Disclaimer: All Mitsubishi corporate employees, Mitsubishi dealerships, Mitsubishi service personnel or employees, family, friends, or acquaintances thereof: This in no way constitutes an admission or acknowledgement of tampering, modification, usage, or alteration of any vehicle in my posession or component thereof in such a fashion as to void, cancel, deny or otherwise refuse service on any service contracts, warrantees, or recall notices covering said vehicles. This and other posts submitted on this, or any Internet forum, under the screenname The Barst simply represent an attempt to gain acceptance from a peer group espousing cars of a high performance nature - especially those that have been altered to improve, enhance, or otherwise modify the automobile's natural characteristics. Any statements, claims, or graphical representations made that would constitute a violation of any contractual agreement are to be considered fictitious and not to be accepted in any court of law, or similar environment mediated for the purpose of dispute resolution.






