Notices
Automotive Discussion Automotive talk that is not technical can be posted here. Posts must address the general population.

The Barst (Steve) and other EVO owners

Thread Tools
 
Old Oct 18, 2003 | 01:20 PM
  #11  
HighPSI TSi Guy's Avatar
HighPSI TSi Guy
❒Good ❒ Better ✔Best
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 4,598
Likes: 0
From: Fredericksburg
HighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud of
Default

unfortunately it's easy to get all the info.. every track i've been to takes down your name, addy, and car make and model when you go through tech. so all the dealer has to do is talk to the track and ask when johnny tran ran his car and the track can say "johnny tran ran his S2000 at this date and this time" because it's all in their computer
Old Oct 18, 2003 | 02:01 PM
  #12  
Frank's Avatar
Frank
EVO VIII PILOT
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
From: Va. Beach
Frank is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

There is a law in the state of VA that requires a dealership to show proof that a "modification" caused the problem with the vehicle. Go to www.machv.com They list the law there by its name and have it in its entirety.

If you are worried about the warranty, your best bet for non-cosmetic mods is to do only that which is easily reversible...ie air intake, etc. When you have to bring the car in, revert to stock.

I bought my EVO in Va. Beach. I don't think these guys are spying out in Dinwiddie or anything.
Old Oct 18, 2003 | 03:41 PM
  #13  
sargeek1975's Avatar
sargeek1975
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 457
Likes: 0
From: Va Beach
sargeek1975 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Originally posted by Frank

If you are worried about the warranty, your best bet for non-cosmetic mods is to do only that which is easily reversible...ie air intake, etc. When you have to bring the car in, revert to stock.
Ummmm.....ya.

Didn't I already say that?
Old Oct 18, 2003 | 03:56 PM
  #14  
chad's Avatar
chad
no longer a moder8r
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,936
Likes: 0
From: Va Beach
chad chad chad chad chad chad chad chad chad chad chad
Default

This being the reason im choosing to buy a huge 4 door car ( 04 TL ) so im not tempted to race it ... kthanksbye
Old Oct 18, 2003 | 06:05 PM
  #15  
vmspionage's Avatar
vmspionage
SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,683
Likes: 0
From: Newport News
vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage
Default

If a dealership wanted to deny a particular claim because of a modification then yea, they will have to prove that it directly caused the malfunction or contributed to its failure. However that law does not apply if the vehicale has been used in competition. Do you relaly think a dealership should pay for every part that breaks if you raced a Kia down the 1/4mile 400,000 times? (100k mile warranty) Of course not. Now how is that different if it were raced every weekend? Or even once? It's not. The point is competition is hard on the car and more shit will break sooner. I still don't see how the dealer is wrong here. If you pay you gotta play - grow up and take some responsability for your actions.

And no, just because the car is racing in a commercial doesn't mean you have the right to abuse it like that and expect the warranty to cover shit that breaks. Hell, as I understand it it even tells you in the owner's manual that if you race Mitsu will not pay for shit that breaks.

SilvEclips point 2 and 3, it was probably someone who works at the dealership that was surfing the forums in their spare time who came across the post and recognized the car when it came in. OK, you know that Mitsu will void your warranty when you race, then you post pictures of your car doing -just that- online for everyone to see? That qualifies as a dumbass in my book.

Point 4, if the policy is race and be voided then they wouldn't even have to look at the problem or spend their mechanic's time to try to figure it out. They know you raced, they aren't going to pay, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 12:34 AM
  #16  
HighPSI TSi Guy's Avatar
HighPSI TSi Guy
❒Good ❒ Better ✔Best
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 4,598
Likes: 0
From: Fredericksburg
HighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud ofHighPSI TSi Guy has much to be proud of
Default

Originally posted by vmspionage
If a dealership wanted to deny a particular claim because of a modification then yea, they will have to prove that it directly caused the malfunction or contributed to its failure. However that law does not apply if the vehicale has been used in competition. Do you relaly think a dealership should pay for every part that breaks if you raced a Kia down the 1/4mile 400,000 times? (100k mile warranty) Of course not. Now how is that different if it were raced every weekend? Or even once? It's not. The point is competition is hard on the car and more shit will break sooner. I still don't see how the dealer is wrong here. If you pay you gotta play - grow up and take some responsability for your actions.

And no, just because the car is racing in a commercial doesn't mean you have the right to abuse it like that and expect the warranty to cover shit that breaks. Hell, as I understand it it even tells you in the owner's manual that if you race Mitsu will not pay for shit that breaks.

SilvEclips point 2 and 3, it was probably someone who works at the dealership that was surfing the forums in their spare time who came across the post and recognized the car when it came in. OK, you know that Mitsu will void your warranty when you race, then you post pictures of your car doing -just that- online for everyone to see? That qualifies as a dumbass in my book.

Point 4, if the policy is race and be voided then they wouldn't even have to look at the problem or spend their mechanic's time to try to figure it out. They know you raced, they aren't going to pay, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
you would actually only have to race it 200,000 times at a 1/4 mile strip to void a 100,000 mile warranty
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 07:47 AM
  #17  
spec's Avatar
spec
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 183
Likes: 0
spec is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Originally posted by HighPSI TSi Guy
you would actually only have to race it 200,000 times at a 1/4 mile strip to void a 100,000 mile warranty
Math must not have been you strong point b/c he was right the first time

.25 * 200,000 = 50,000
.25 * 400,000 = 100,000
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 07:33 PM
  #18  
vmspionage's Avatar
vmspionage
SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,683
Likes: 0
From: Newport News
vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage vmspionage
Default

yea I thought 'wtf?' too before I thought about it - it's only 200,000 times because you have to drive a 1/4mi back to the start
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 09:02 PM
  #19  
spec's Avatar
spec
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 183
Likes: 0
spec is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Originally posted by vmspionage
yea I thought 'wtf?' too before I thought about it - it's only 200,000 times because you have to drive a 1/4mi back to the start
Fuck that, just turn around and race back to the start,
Old Oct 20, 2003 | 04:55 AM
  #20  
The Barst's Avatar
The Barst
¿Señor Member?
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,094
Likes: 0
From: Yorktown
The Barst is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

That's why I never run at the track. Never mod my car either. I do change my own oil though and buy my filter from mitsu and keep the reciept.

That is also why you see signatures like this:

Disclaimer: All Mitsubishi corporate employees, Mitsubishi dealerships, Mitsubishi service personnel or employees, family, friends, or acquaintances thereof: This in no way constitutes an admission or acknowledgement of tampering, modification, usage, or alteration of any vehicle in my posession or component thereof in such a fashion as to void, cancel, deny or otherwise refuse service on any service contracts, warrantees, or recall notices covering said vehicles. This and other posts submitted on this, or any Internet forum, under the screenname The Barst simply represent an attempt to gain acceptance from a peer group espousing cars of a high performance nature - especially those that have been altered to improve, enhance, or otherwise modify the automobile's natural characteristics. Any statements, claims, or graphical representations made that would constitute a violation of any contractual agreement are to be considered fictitious and not to be accepted in any court of law, or similar environment mediated for the purpose of dispute resolution.



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:24 AM.